I don’t know what to do about sleep

Yes he was in his crib for the long one And again this morning he did 9 20 until 11 in his crib so I know it’s not the crib if that makes sense

I think it will take a while (a few days) for the later bed time to take affect. You could also cap his naps during the day and avoid doing anything to prolong them. Perhaps maximum 1 hour or even 45 minutes. For the longer one in the crib, did he sleep right through without any resettling?

I do all the usual checks and he had calpol and then ibruprofen a few hours later in case

Yeh that’s a good idea So today he had a nap 30 mins at about 9am 1 he 30 at 1pm in his crib 30 mins at 4 30pm Then we went out for dinner so he was up until 8pm with us Got home at 830pm He has still woken at 9pm 10pm 12am 230am 3am 430am Got up. At 6am Although he settles straight away with his music back on and dummy I then end up wide awake

Yes It’s tricky when they nap in the car as you have less control over stretching their awake time I find. You could also try a short cat nap at 5:30 (maybe about 20 mins) just to try and push through to a later bed time?

Thanks ladies It’s so hard as overtired is the worst kind of baby He gets so tired about 5 30 so I do dinner at 5 then play then bath at 6 and he’s down by 6 30 and just goes down but your probably right he might need a later bedtime I don’t have nap routines in the day as we’re always out so he just has half hour car naps mostly one the morning and one in the afternoon I am tempted by Ferber I just find him crying breaks my heart 💜 Co sleeping used to work but now he still wakes while in with me I have such rubbish nights but also so does he because if he wakes at 6am by 8am he wants to sleep

Hi mama, I think there are things you can optimise before you go down the route of sleep training, especially as you don’t seem keen on it. It sounds like he’s not tired enough of he is waking multiple times before midnight. You are aiming to get him to sleep a full 12 hours, many older babies don’t need 12 hours overnight some only need 9-10 hours. He will most likely need a later bed time than he did at 6 months. I would definitely start putting him to bed later, try pushing back by 15-30 minutes each night. It will take a while for his to work expect a difference over a couple of weeks. If things are really hard at the moment maybe cosleep until the wake ups improve. Also make sure he’s not having very long day naps as that can also reduce his sleep pressure at night. Hope this helps.

We have ollie the owl so if he does wake the sound of rain comes on for 20 minutes automatically.

Hi. I myself wasn't a huge fan of sleep training, however I reached a point of my son waking every hour and knew something had to be done. There quite clever these little ones and for my son he knew I'd just take him out of his crib if all else failed trying to sooth him etc... most nights he was in with me. I started the ferber method and yes it isn't nice to hear them cry but for us it worked so well. By night 3 he was sleeping from 7 until 12ish 1 having a bottle then going back down. By night 7 he was sleeping through 7ish until 6am and has continued to do it. I know its not for everyone and I was one of those people. X