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Anyone follow Lisa cleggs routines? What do people think of this for a 9 week old routine? Does it seem about right? I struggle to give my lo a full feed at half ten as he just falls asleep!
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oersonally i dont think that would work

Nope. Firstly this baby is young. Secondly , following their natural cues works much better at this point. Reading this I feel like these babies are expected to be robots. Not every baby will nap and eat at set times.

Sounds like setting yourself up for failure by being so strict as a newborn. This wouldn't even work for my 9 month old with how strict the times are đŸ€·

I think it’s more realistic for babies closer to the 8/9 week mark?

@Seema I mean saying feed exactly at certain times and exactly how much is unrealistic. They really are meant to be fed on demand during the 4th trimester. You'll have to fine tune it for your baby and also don't fall into the trap of getting upset if your baby doesn't fit these molds exactly

@Seema this routine is so strict that no. 8-9week mark I’d still say no. There is no reason to be this strict with a literal newborn. They don’t sleep cause you want them to, the aren’t capable of sleeping through the night, if they wake in the night they should be fed even if it’s not fun for you.

So many rules & things to remember, on top of everything else that comes with the fourth trimester đŸ« 

Does this actually work for anyone?? Like seriously. I can’t imagine how it ever could. Sometimes my baby doesn’t want off the breast and sometimes he falls asleep after 5 mins and there’s no waking him up. You can’t force a baby to sleep, especially if hungry and you also can’t force them to eat, especially dictated amounts. I feel like the people this works for have babies that genetically sleep and then try to sell this to sleep deprived parents, claiming it will work for everyone. If it does for you amazing but most sleep experts say not to even try a ‘routine’ until at least 3/6 months

From personal experience, it's ridiculous, sorry. We didn't find a "routine" until around 6 months. 1 year in and it still changes. Go with what your child needs. They need feeding on demand, warmth and sleep. Some naps mine would sleep for 15 mins, others for 2 hours.

I can't imagine putting a baby into a routine that young, at that age they just want to feed and cuddle all the time!

I follow her routines and it semi works for us (baby 6 weeks old) I don't follow it exactly though I pick and choose bits that have worked. For example I moved the evening feed to 10-1030pm and now baby only wakes up once in the night. I also follow alot of her advice wake windows etc and found it really helpful. However my baby is awake from 6-10, she gets alot of gas and is very distressed during that time so there's no point in following all of her routine as I'd be forcing baby to sleep when she just doesn't want to. Every baby is different so I think you need to pick and choose what advice works for you!

I So against all the comments I have read this book and follow her routines and it works fantastic! Before doing just the routine I would read the book as this alone is hard and doesn’t make sense! From 6 weeks we loosely followed it and by 9 weeks he had dropped the over night bottle and sleeps through! The day naps have just finally become naps alone and for the full times and he is 4 months. The book explains everything and it’s not as regimented as it sounds it explains ways around and if baby doesn’t follow the times etc etc what I would say is trust the process but it takes a lot of dedication initially xx

@Becky hi Becky I would love to know more! What worked for u from her routines and what didn’t?xx

@Seema as per Rebecca’s initially comment early on baby wouldn’t settle at 7-10 and required more of a nap or assistance with this however reading her book she explains techniques and things to assist with self settling and extending those pesky cat naps etc etc! First we started with the feeds and structuring them and ensuring they were full feeds (she explains it all in break down) once this was more routines to times baby’s nap became alot better and structured around them. He now knows when his feed is and takes really well and is always settled and content. The lunch time nap was our hardest to achieve as it’s such a long time however he would do half so I would contact nap the second half he now has learnt to self soothe and willing takes the 2 hours. The night feed she explains how to drop this when baby so ready and enver encouraged esrly dropping etc. she is on insta and will respond to any Qus which I find brilliant. Before he I was struggling with baby crying /

No routine / over tiredness this helped me work out what was needed when. However the book is required to explain more how to do everything so to speak. The 10:30 feed also baby’s are so sleepy initially but even if they wake at the beginning then fall asleep that’s ok it takes time. I find it helps with regressions and independent sleeping etc. Sorry this is an essay! Also we still go off babies ques too so at the min of his lunch nap is say the 90mins min so 11;30-1 he won’t last till 4 for his next nap so we try see if he will sleep till 2 or follow sleepy ques xx

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Sorry this routine doesn’t bring in nap times yet that’s the next stage xx

As a first time mom I followed her cues, still do at 9 months old
 it’s made for such an easy baby. I keep the routine the same so when the times changes she still always knows what’s next even if the time is off by an hour or two it doesn’t disrupt her and make her fussy.

@Faith this is what I did with my little one; followed cues, & as I was noting down feeds, feed times, nappies, sleep, etc, I noticed at around 7 weeks she started to fall into a pattern of feeding at 7pm before sleeping a long stretch before she wanted feeding again, & the time between the two just increased until she was sleeping through before 12 weeks. When this started to happen, I would wake her & get her ready for the day at 7pm, ensure she was feeding regularly as she fell into a pattern of wanting to be fed every three hours, & ensuring feeds were full feeds. Going by cues, noting things down- figuring out her individual routine really helped me not feel overwhelmed, & just made life easier all round as a first time mum. Before that I was overwhelmed with what she ‘should’ be doing & when. I think people should just do whatever works for them x

@Becky my main question is where did you find the time to read a book 😂

I wouldn’t recommend lights on past 6/7pm if you’re trying to help regulate circadian rhythm. Everything I’ve read says to feed babies every 2-3 hours (2 during the day for more feeds if trying to get a longer stretch at night), have them nap during the day in the daylight and don’t limit your noise (will help raise a baby to sleep through anything), and once 6-7pm rolls around to start dimming the lights and not have them in bright light till the morning. Try to put them down around 9/10 and then do a twilight feed in the middle of the night. Newborns aren’t born knowing the difference between night and day so making sure to adjust the lights at different points will aid in that adjustment.

@Zoe this made me laugh alot đŸ«Ł thankfully it’s section out so every time I pumped I quickly flicked the page I was struggling with đŸ€Ł!

I follow her routines, they worked to start with but then slowly it wasn’t working out so I started letting LO sleep/feed whenever they wanted but after a while that also got too messy and I was exhausted so I slowly started following again and still do! LO is 8m now. I have found it good the second time I started following again. I managed to drop 3/4am feed at 4m and the 11pm feed 6m and LO sleeps 7-7 since though gets the odd wake here and there some nights due to teething

@Tiffany just cause your ahead of us did u wait for weaning to drop the 11pm feed? Xx

I started a routine around 2 months which is when I noticed my baby had a harder time napping and then would be cranky. I DONT follow a schedule but I follow certain rules (mostly based off taking Cara babies blog). 1. Naps no longer than 2 hours 2. Watch wake windows based off age and tired signs ( your schedule you posted has a 3 hour wake window for a newborn which is way too long imo) 3. Try not to let them fall asleep while breast/bottle feeding this way you can get baby to fall asleep on their own 4. Follow a eat, play, sleep routine 5. No longer than 12 hours of sleep during the night 6. Listen to your babies cues and definitely go off track to fit the needs of your baby ( example: sometimes I let my girl eat to fall asleep, or put her down a little before or after the wake window) It’s not about being perfect but creating routines for yourself and for your baby. It’s always nice to know what to expect đŸ˜â€ïž

@Becky yeah, I had weaned for a couple of weeks. I full woke her up with lights every night that she started automatically waking up herself for those feeds then once weaning started slowly she was taking less and less milk for that feed then stopped waking for them xx

@Tiffany perfect yea we do the full wake up too but he’s at the stage where he’s not bothered but know they then regress so il hold out and be patient till he’s on foods xx

@Becky your comments are really helpful as we’re doing the same routine now. Can I ask if you breastfed? And if so, did you notice any change to your supply as you dropped the night feed? X

@Amy I only directly breastfed for the first few weeks and then I exclusively pumped. For me I was an over supplier from the offset so I always had plenty however tbh if baby no longer feeds at night your supply balances to match. I think breastfeeding is so much more productive for supply and maintaining if your pumping and your supply is ‘just enough’ I would ensure to keep a night pump in. Xx

Thank you. Did you pump at the same time as the recommended feed times in the routines? Xx

@Amy no completely different I just pumped on a schedule to suit my needs as everyone is so different with pumping and supply. I started off every 3hours as that’s generally how often new babies feed but over time I realised how much more I produced and extended the gaps to suit my day and needs. Xx

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