Genuinely can't believe some of these terms are actually used... "Habitual aborter"... Absolutely awful
I love it! Thanks for doing this!
This is amazing!
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I hope medical professionals and community adopts these asap
Iād rather medical professionals called things for what they are for me, rather than sugar coat to avoid ānegativityā. Unfortunately, some things in life are negative and people who are mature enough to have children, should be able to live with that. I hope my doctors will not be using this glossary.
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Looking through the glossary I do agree that if used in the delivery room, a few of these are sugar coated though like the long term they coined instead of "fetal distress". If the baby is in distress, I want to know
Amazing! I love it thank you for putting this together!
I like this, the terms are still sensible and direct without being unnecessarily hostile. The Hippocratic oath promises to do no harm and I believe this should extend to language.
@Team Peanut In your effort to be āinclusiveā with your glossary, Iād like to ask why the change from Stay at Home Mom to Full-Time Childcarer? Am I not a mother full time because I work outside of the home? Oh. Okay. š Renaming birth plan as ābirth preferencesā? Fed is best even though medical science has proven breast milk is better for human babies? This is coming from a mom who transitioned to formula from bf. Ridiculous
I like it. Some areas have been made far too PC, trying not to offend anyone Iād assume. 9/10 though!
Yeeesss. I always cringed seeing āproduct of conception,ā on a specimen. And Iāve also wondered if they could have come up with a better name for it. Thank you for this. And also a lot of the terms in the glossary. Can I buy this book somewhere so I can bring it to work and put it on display in the waiting room??? Lololol. Or even just in my living room!?!? Please?
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I think if you contact them they can get you a copy! It sounds like they are trying to distribute to doctorās offices.
@Mary you can request your own copy if you click the link
This is great and there is always room to grow and evolve in all areas of medicine and language..... But who has actually put this together?... some of the terms are already very outdated and so not used and some very American, and others are just completely incorrect.
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I'd like the phrase "failure to progress" to go f**k itself š. Dealing with the mental aspect of having to have 2 emergency c sections is hard enough without having it in black and white that I "failed" at the one thing my body is literally MADE to do š
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@Olga heaven forbid you have to deal with that terminology. Failure to progress, failure to thrive etc. Its all things that make women feel like THEY are the failure. Just because something is accurate, it doesn't make it the best way to say it. Sensitivity in parenthood is lacking and anyone who criticised others for needing it is lacking in compassion
Didnāt realised how many of these common terms have the word failure or incompetent in them! I bet it was a tough challenge to look after your children while recovering from major abdominal surgery, but no one focuses on or gives praise for achieving that. Xx
@Team Peanut will this be expanded on? I feel like there were a lot of terms that were suggested (because the woman took offense) not included. Youāve even stated Thousands came forwardāI doubt a glossary with less than 100 phrases are the ONLY terms found offensive. By omitting terms you have played a part in devaluing a womanās negative experience āduring the most sensitive and vulnerable times in womenās livesā. If Iām honest I am a little disappointed with this campaign.
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@Angelica thatās why I am asking if this will be expanded on. Nothing in the statements above or at the link indicate or say this is a start. The list was already complied by app users and women from social media. Other than coming up with an alternate phrase and taking the time for that there wasnāt much work that needed to go into it. From my perspective, I canāt speak for everyone, it comes across that certain phrases took priority (why would anyoneās experience be more valuable or important than someone elseās), that another phrase couldnāt be thought of so āit is what it isā , or lastly it didnāt fit an agendaāI love peanut so it really sucks that that is crossing my mind but seeing this campaign roll out that is definitely what is crossing my mind right now.
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I was only offended when I heard the words "JUST a stay at home mom" with hard emphasis on the just.
Thanks for taking the time to help drive progress towards more inclusive and less judgemental language. It might not make everyone happy and it might not be the perfect new term for everything, but I think some of these terms absolutely need to be separated from their patriarchal origins and it's a great step in the right direction ššŖš
Thank god for that after my miscarriage it was extremely upsetting seeing spontaneous abortion!!
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I think some of these are trying *too* hard to please. My daughter doesn't have a "birth difference". A "birth difference" is something like hair or eye colour imo. My daughter's heart literally didn't form properly. It is quite literally defective. When referring to defects and disability it's very important the people who are affected have a say. Otherwise we risk turning things into even more of a taboo. There's nothing wrong with having a birth defect or a disability. Let's not change the terms to appease the woke brigadeš¤·š½āāļø
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I think that heart defect is OK, because it's specific, but birth defect suggests the whole baby is defective.
I disagree if I'm honest. It's one of those where when you ask the people affected what they want, the vast majority don't want patronising terms like differently abled or different abilities because it gives the impression it's *not* okay to have apart of you not working
Birther?Bio mum or tummy mummy are the common terms among those who adopt not birther that is such an awful way to word it. To be fair call them whatever you like it all means the same thing. I dont see the issue I wouldn't be offended about most things however the one that I would is the one you have changed to. Birth mum is ok bit birther is awful. I would never refer to my sons bio mum as birther its disrespectful.
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itās not offensive to be inclusive, Dawn.
"Birther" is an umbrella term, it doesn't mean to exclude your favourite way to say it. However, it does includes those people who birth their own children but don't identify as mothers... For example trans men and non-binary folk āŗ
As a non binary person I really appreciated the addition of the term ābirtherā. Thank you x
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@Sam I think it's amazing this is included. I think we should be able to choose how we're referred to on our notes and it's so easy to see. I love being a 'mother' but not everyone likes it. If you apply for a job they ask your prefered name. It wouldn't be difficult to do the same with hospitals š It's not about being 'woke' or 'awkward' it's about making you feel comfortable and heard! And it's not bloody difficult!
Yes, definitely this! And if the hospital double checks on their forms then it means I donāt have to keep doing a whole awkward coming out thing every time I get pregnant and also means I donāt have to secretly worry that maybe theyāll be intolerant and give me less care because they ādonāt agreeā with my āchoicesā even though the way one identifies with gender and sexuality is never a choice š¤¦āāļø x
Some of the comments on here are saying ābreast fed isnāt outdatedā but the glossary doesnāt state ābreast fedā is outdated, it says ābreast is bestā is outdated and instead should be āfed is bestā... or am I missing something? X
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@Zoe if I had continued to try and breastfeed my premature baby, she would be dead. No two ways about it. So it's not best. Its a choice and nobody should be judged even if they choose straight away to bottle feed. Its not offensive, its a cold hard truth as far as I'm concerned
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@Becky šš I completely agree... I had to stop breastfeeding for my own mental health, but because of basically ALL healthcare workers reciting ābreast is bestā I felt awful for stopping.. one doctor even said ānot enough people nowadays keep up with breastfeedingā Any way your baby is fed so long as they are fed is best!
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@Zoe my daughter was in neonatal and I had to leave her there after making the decision to let her be formula fed. In my state I managed to knock over the last tiny amount of breast milk I managed to get. If ANYONE wants to say that doesn't mess with people's mental health then they're lucky to have never been in the situation and should stop being so flippant because they don't agree.
I felt like such a failure after not being able to breast feed my first daughter that it led to post natal depression... I called the midwifery team "The Breastfeeding Gestapo"!
@Sam H āØ oh wow thatās really interesting to find out about the US system! Here in the uk I think itās different as when I was in hospital for a few days last year having surgery upon check-in they asked me if I had a preferred name other than my legal name (I did, Sam is not my legal name, itās my chosen name) and then they took note of my gender identity when I came out about it. I spent the whole time there with correct name and gender and it was a very nice experience (apart from having to have surgery which was not so nice šš) but itās scary when youāre queer cos every time you come out to ppl you put yourself in a vulnerable position and when Iāve been pregnant in the past Iāve felt very vulnerable already so not always had the headspace to make myself even more vulnerable x
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@Sam totally understand! I wish we had this freedom in the states. It is so hard reading a patients name as a male but the patient wanting to be called something else. Itās heartbreaking honestly because there is no way around it in the statesāwe enjoy flexing our patriarchal ways of life šāI wish we could do more. I think this is a great first step!
@Becky šš Iām so sorry you had to be in that situation. We should never have to feel bad for the way we feed our babies! So glad your daughter is happy and healthy now š
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@Zoe glad you got over the Gestapo as well! You do what's best for your child, you're a good parent in my opinion
Geriatric mothers should be renamed after myself. Irreverent mothers, for when you get to our age, your so tired, you give 0 fecks about anything (apart from the health of your baby) š¤£ mum guilt? Nope, cos everyoneās survived the feckin day, with no childhood trauma inflicted somehow š¤·š»āāļøš¤£ we donāt care about bottle or boob or feckin organic free trade nappies. We just want to make it to bedtime and bath time without swearing too much š¤·š»āāļø
I thought that at first but reading through the definitions and terms found much of the new wording more accurate and easier to understand. I always found it kind of weird how failure to thrive is sued to describe babies who donāt gain weight quickly as well as old people who lose weight .... and the term geriatric pregnant is probably outdated . Someone who is 35 isnāt geriatric is any other way .
Spontaneous abortion needs to GO. That phrase alone can send wannabe Mom's right down the path of guilt, self deprecation and depression. I was sent home at 16 with a folder explaining my "spontaneous abortion" and how to go about addressing my fertility problems if it happened again
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I remember when I had my miscarriage the phrase "Products of conception" being the coldest punch straight to my heart term I ever heard. Some of it was the state of shock I was in I'm sure but can some thing please be done with that term. It's horrific and yes I know it's just scientific but it sounds so heartless.
So I had a geriatric pregnancy... I donāt care if thatās what itās called it is what it is. Why are people so sensitive.... I really hope peanut doesnāt get political.
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They havenāt always been that way. Youāre more at risk at that age of having issues .. much like people between 60-70 are more likely to have issues ... hence the term geriatric.. itās not horrible ...
So many of these are already neutral. And some of them are outright offensive! I am sorry! Full time mom and not childcarer. Could be a nanny. And fed is best?! Fed what?! Could be fed anything. Breast is best ALWAYS. Itās understandable that some canāt lactate and it should never be held against them, but even they know that breast is best and if not, formula and donated breast milk can do. Jeez! Woke-ism is going too far
Yikes... some ppl get really angry and stressed when they realise that the current terminology doesnāt suit everybody š¬ Like... if you donāt need terms to change then keep on using what works for you but maybe just be a bit less volatile over some ppl wanting different language. Their experiences donāt change yours so donāt try to devalue theirs when they want to use different words to explain something š¤·āāļø some of the ideas for possible new terms work for me, some donāt, but whatever ppl wanna use to describe their journey is fine by me because itās their experience not mine... so instead of mocking or attacking people who find this glossary useful, maybe just go āyou know what? They can do them, I can do me. Thatās fine.ā š
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Ok but if they want to change the words why does there need to be an announcement somewhat shaming people and making it uncomfortable to continue using those words
Shaming? It seemed more like they were just proudly announcing coming up with alternatives for ppl who would like them and donāt feel certain language adequately reflects their experiences therefore aleviating any emotional discomfort they may have felt with some of the terminology currently used. If ppl feel comfortable with the current terminology then they can just carry on using it but for some ppl itās not appropriate or helpful.
The truth is for loss or deviation from what you expected in birth, any differences will echo as painful. The words don't matter though the connotation contributes. The word choice here doesn't change the reality of what happened. Focusing on changing the vernacular of medical field is not as important as changing our own perceptions about birth or having babies through education and experience.
The one that didnāt sit well with me was āBirtherā instead of āBirth Mom.ā I can see how āBirth Momā could make the list... but āBirtherā makes me think of farm stock. ššššOtherwise, I could really see the benefit of changing some, others didnāt cause concern for me, but trying to put myself in otherās shoes...
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I think thatās maybe just a suggested term for ppl who might want a gender neutral approach. If ppl want to keep saying birth mom for their own experiences then of course they have every right to. I just think itās good to be mindful that sometimes words that fit our experiences wonāt fit the experiences of others so if they want to call it something else thatās cool too. As a non binary person I appreciated the inclusion of a gender neutral term. Personally I use birth parent rather than birther but it was nice to feel like I had a place at the table too. I think some of these terms work well as suggestions on how to enter conversations neutrally for other people. Itās like when Iām chatting with someone whoās pregnant that Iāve just met. I like to go in neutrally first āwow you must be so excited that in a few months youāll get to be a parent! šā giving a cue for them to either say āyes, Iāve wanted to be a mom for so longā or accept āparentā.
There's more than one way to call something and it can still be correct and professional. For example, because of the connotation it has, "incompetent" is an unnecessary word to use and there can just be something else that means the same thing without encouraging the woman to feel bad about her body. Infertility is already hard enough as it is.