Crate for punishment ?

My partner keeps telling me to crate our dogs when they are not immediately listening to the commands. Per example; I keep telling them to go to their "place" and they go, but they come back. We had been told by our trainer to NEVER use crate as a punishment. Or they would learn to fear the crate and not go when they need space or have to be in it when we leave. Everything I've researched, including talking to our trainer (we haven't seen her in over a year. Life events happened and she moved away.) has said to "redirect the dogs" give them a bunch of commands as punishment. I've explained this to him and it's really pissing me off that he keeps telling me to crate them. I've expressed that too, and he doesn't seem to care. What do you do for "punishment" for your dogs? I also don't feel like them "not listening" is a reason to be punished. This man will tell the dog stay and expect him to stay there until the release word is given HOURS later. No build up training. No reminder he was told to stay. The moment the dog gets up- he gets pissed and throws him in the crate. I don't know what to do anymore.

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No crates are safe places and shouldn’t be used for punishments.

I wouldn’t punish my dog but I would train them instead. Teach your dog commands like sit or down and give them a treat. Figure out why your dog is acting this way too maybe your dog is stressed.

Sounds like unreasonable expectations.. I wouldn't use the crate as punishment, my dog goes there for comfort. I guess I don't really see the need to 'punish' him if he's not listening to a command, it's way more my fault than his

Crates are a prevention should not be a correction. I count to 3 with my dog. If she doesn’t listen to me the 3rd time , she goes into the crate . I give her a treat if she goes in. You can’t give dogs a bunch of corrections if you do that , it confuses them then they have no idea what they did wrong. They might respect you more than your partner than what it sounds like . I have a dog , she listens to me . It’s normal for a dog to listen to one person in the house. My dog doesn’t listen to anyone else. I’ve trained her that way.

This sounds horrible and completely unfair to your dogs! No dog should be expected to stay still for that long! I agree with everyone here, of course. Never use the crate as punishment. When my dog first came home with me, she used to play bite me a lot. I use timeout to train her not to do that. If she bit me, I would tell her no sharply. If she bit me again, I would tell her no again. If she bit me a third time, I would tell her done and put her in the bathroom with the lights off for 3 minutes. It worked great, she got trained out of doing that so fast.

Dogs can’t feel guilt like we can. Definitely never use the crate as punishment, it’s a bit like having a child if you pay more attention to what they’re doing wrong they carry on doing it and when they’re good they need lots of praise and sometimes a reward. Mine has been crate trained since a puppy and he used to go in during the day. Then when I was on maternity leave he was getting a bit funny when I tried to put him during the day, so I decided to leave him and I am glad I did because he was good as gold. He now only going to bed in it. I think it has a lot to do with the breed it self mines a Dachshund and can be stubborn.

Agree that crates are a safe place nit a punishment place. When my dog was a puppy our trainer told us to use a timeout leash. It was a leash that was diffeent than all his others and it was tied to a door. We didn't use it much but it when we hooked him up to it, he could sit down but we left him alone, so no words, no eye contact and it was just a minute or two but it was effective