Why are so many celebrities having babies via surrogate?

Do you know? Is it by choice or medically necessary? Is it ethical?

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IMO its usually so they can continue working without dealing with any interruptions caused by pregnancy. They also usually want to avoid changes to their bodies. Pregnancy can be unpleasant, they have the money to get around that. With their wealth and status they can choose practically everything about their surrogacy experience. I don't think it's exactly ethical but I'm not sure I could be against it either if the surrogates are completely informed on what to expect.

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I’m guessing to preserve their bodies or keep the pregnancy protected from obsessive psychos/ paparazzi. Regardless, I know those surrogates are getting PAID

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They want babies but their future schedule would be disrupted being pregnant, maybe they have concerts/tour coming or have to film a movie. Celebrities usually have 1-2yrs in advanced scheduled out already and being pregnant means millions of dollars lost (and unhappy fans) because that concert won’t happen or that movie won’t be released on time etc. time wise, they can’t afford it. Concert Tours or filming movies/sequels can take a year, more.

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I would if I had the money for it too

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Designer genes 🤷🏼‍♀️ they have the money to make sure they don’t have diseases, pick girl/boy and other traits

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It can be ethical. And yes, it could be due to health conditions or personal circumstances.

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surrogacy doesn't involve someone picking genes.

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Because that's the route they chose for whatever reason

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Most times convenience, and for some it's really the last resort due to some medical issues.

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I think all surrogacy is unethical

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Listen if I was broke, disciplined and I ENJOYED pregnancy I wud definitely be a surrogate for any1 who needed to use my body to grow their baby & if I was a rich CELEBRITY I wud definitely get a surrogate. There are so many personal reasons why ppl choose surrogacy bt I think most celebrities do it cuz they can afford it & cuz they want to keep their jobs & keep working in an industry that actually doesn’t “support” women. That industry is very sexiest & there is a lot of ageism. Pregnancy can not only age alot of women bt it also forces us to slow down a little, so that cud be a setback to ones career & shift of focus. Bt famous ppl have images to adhere to & jobs to book, that is literally how they make their money so they want to be able to stay relevant for as long as possible. So some have to sacrifice so much just to keep their brand, even if it means never carrying ur own child & paying some1 to carry the child for them :)

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Bt I think surrogacy shud be jus for ppl who CANT carrry kids, it shudnt be a “jus because I want to” thing cuz it can be unethical. I remember watching khloe Kardashian explain her surrogacy story & she said she felt very bad for the woman who carried her son cuz she went thru the pregnancy, labor & delivery & postpartum to have Khloes son & she admitted on their tv show that when she went to the hospital she felt very bad for the woman she hired for the job. Bt I don’t think there is anything “to feel bad for” if both parties made an agreement. I do however want to know how
Much surrogates get paid cuz they are essentially putting their lives at risk for a pay check. So if I was a celebrity, I think I wud get a big ego knowing that some ppl are willing to take my money. Essentially money buys everything even a womb. lol there is a price for everything I guess

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woah wow! ONLY 45,000
I’m shocked if that is the real number cuz that is cheap. That is not a lot of money at all. Very affordable for a celebrity. My goodness I bet they are just buying wombs in Hollywood like we shop for milk at the grocery store

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if a couple wants to pay for it, they can do PGD...which is kind of the same thing. It involves figuring out which embryos have the least chance of chromosomal abnormalities, disease, etc.

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for a lot of reasons. Having spoken to adults who were surrogacy born and their negative feelings about it I’ve definitely changed my stance towards it. I didn’t used to think it was unethical or a problem. Now I do.

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that test is available for some couples for some reasons. That is not the equivalent of surrogacy, nor needed to have a surrogate. It is not the same thing.

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I don't care, other people's fertility or how they want or need to start their family isn't my business.

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I agree

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there’s a difference between want and need to. Is paying women who are struggling financially to birth a baby for another woman ethical? Many women are now looking out of the US to do it because it’s cheaper and there’s less regulation. I saw a documentary on a woman who was in Mexico and doing it to financially support her other two kids. She has no idea whose baby she is carrying. Many surrogates don’t.

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Supposedly Kim and Kanye’s surrogate didn’t for much of her pregnancy.
Is it okay to use women as human incubators?
Personally I think it’s fine with a certain amount of transparency and if proven medically necessary or for gay couples wanting to start a family.
But simply not wanting to be pregnant so I’ll pay someone else to doesn’t click for me.

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That's not the question you asked though, is it?
Surrogacy should be regulated, absolutely, so should many things like sperm/egg donation. But I'd be surprised to learn that big celebrities were going down an unethical route when they have the money to do things properly as well as not wanting to be cancelled.

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interesting insight.

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from what I read with the top surrogate agencies they aren’t allowed to pay them extra. Even for an anonymity bonus. They can pay for things like trainers, nutritionists, and personal chefs but the surrogate still gets the standard rate of approx $30k for a first time surrogate and $40-$45k for being a returning surrogate.

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I’m curious what the surrogacy born adults are saying about it to make you change your stance. I don’t know of anyone surrogacy born. Sperm donation yes, but not surrogate born.

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Babies born to surrogates experience the same separation trauma that babies who are given up for adoption do. Babies don’t know that the person who carried and birthed them does not share their dna. All they know is the person who grew them and who they are already bonded to has been taken away from them. It causes trauma for many of these people. That lasts a lifetime.

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I don’t understand. Many people don’t know they are born via surrogate or adopted unless they’re told so how do they carry trauma from it?
Would you mind elaborating more?

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I’m adopted. So I’m in that space. Even those who were late to learn adoptees knew something was amiss nearly all their lives. Going to therapy helped many of them to deal with the trauma that they didn’t understand they carried from the separation at birth.

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I can see how that’s the case for some but overwhelmingly in the people I know who were adopted they are grateful for it. Almost if the time when people did find out they were in their late teens to early 20s and in an adolescent phase where everything feels off because they are still learning about and defining themselves. I’m not sure this is due to being separated from their birth mother any more than their peers. Is this not a possibility? Did you know you were adopted or when did you find out if you don’t mind me asking.
Not trying to be intrusive. Genuinely curious and I know that I very well could not come out of this discussion with a solid answer.

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Do not speak for adoptees if you are not one. We are the experts. The people I know are LATE adoptees. As in over 40+. And people in the teens and 20’s are still very much in the fog. They come to many realizations later in life. I did too. I came out of the fog in my mid 30’s and I’ve always known I was adopted. My oldest son didn’t know until he was 12. He knew something was wrong his entire life.

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Also you can be grateful and still have trauma. The 2 things are not mutually exclusive

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Well that escalated quickly. I didn’t say I was speaking for adoptees. I said I was curious. I’ll ask others. Thanks for your insight.

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Ok? Weird response. If you’re looking for further education please join adoption facing realities on Facebook.

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Just FWIW saying “ I know someone who said this” IS speaking for them. Because the likely hood is they didn’t tell you their full truth. That was me. For YEARS.

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Ya’ll I’m adopted and I agree with both & OP cuz two things can be true at the same time. And everything shud be treated on a case by case basis. I think a lot of things can be considered unethical like adoption, abortion, surrogacy, even donating sperm or eggs, circumcision cuz it can be considered “mutilation” bt ppl have their reason for choosing to do what they do. I had some questions abt surrogacy cuz I do feel like growing a baby in another persons body does cause some type of trauma to the child or birth mom, bt I was told that it can’t be true cuz the child & mother are not “related” in any way so there shudnt be any trauma bt I’m always questioning “how” ppl look at u like ur insane for even questioning or having open conversations abt this stuff cuz we are all trying to understand, learn & grow. Bt I’ve never actually had the privilege to have conversations with the children who were the product of surrogacy agreement like I do with the adoptee community x

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I don’t Facebook.

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it’s multiple. I said people. Not person but yes, you are person and that is your very valid experience. And before you get on me for saying your experience is valid I’m saying it before you say I’m invalidating yours. It is 100% valid and you have every right to it and to express it. But saying every other adopted person who doesn’t see it your way because they don’t see it yours yet is invalidating theirs.

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It’s not. Because as you are not an adopted person it’s very likely that they didn’t tell you their real truth. Or may not even recognize it yet. As you said they were teens/young adults.

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they were teens/young adults when they learned they were adopted. They’re at least 30-60 now. Ages varied. But maybe they weren’t telling me the whole truth. Could be. Or could it not also be true and your experience was yours? Has no one else heard someone who was adopted say that their parents are the people who raised them and their biological parents are the people who birthed them? I don’t understand how it can’t both be true as people have different experiences.

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I’m in the community. The vast majority recognize the reality. My adopted dad, I love. He raised me. I love him. I’ve held his penis into a jar because he has dementia and I love him that much. My bio mom is literally crazy. The trauma of being adopted still exists.

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I'm adopted. Do not put me in the same ignorant category as yourself. In fact maybe just speak on your behalf and not generalize it as if we all adoptees feel the same.

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I didn’t. Maybe read my comments 😂

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I did. And to me, you disagree on any other way of making a family besides the natural way. I remember you basically shaming me for having white parents because you disagree with it over a year ago. And for you to make statements as if you're speaking for all adoptees is bullshit. Speak for yourself and only you.

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I encourage you to join some groups for adult adoptees and adoption facing realities groups on Facebook. When I was 30. I also would have given the same response. I think it’s important for you to understand that you fall in the minority.

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transracial adoption has many other issues. Of which I’ve learned about. But did not experience myself.

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I don't need you to tell me how to face reality. My reality is pretty straight forward. I have 2 loving parents. Point blank period and that's all that's important to me. We clearly had 2 very different experiences. That's why I say speak for yourself and not generalize it. Not everyone's experiences are the same as yours

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be mad about it. Or actually educate yourself on the vast majority of peoples adoption experience. You’ve had a lived experience of being a transracial adoptee. Now it’s time to listen to the other people in your community who’ve had a very opposite experience. I can connect you with dozens if you wish for personal stories.

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exactly. YOU didn't experience it yourself. So why speak on it to begin with? You literally just told someone to not speak on adoption if they aren't an adoptee themselves. Yet here you are speaking in something you've never experienced yourself. Bit of a hypocrite, don't you think?

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we didn’t. I’ve just acknowledged the trauma of adoption. Which is the difference. It’s totally cool if you want to live in the fog. I get it.

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I can find personal stories on my own thank you very much. I don't need help from you 🖕🏾

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huh?

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