Together 4 years No proposal

Is there a reason why he hasn't? Financial or life goals that aren't met? Family issues? Sometimes there is a lot going on and it isn't as simple to some men as just going and getting married.

Have you had a serious conversation of sharing this as a need, and attempting to set it as a relationship goal with a "time range"?

I was with my fiance for four years before we got engaged. Just waited until the right time in our life.

Please don't let society tell you that because he hasn't proposed he doesn't love you - I am married (together 6 years before engagement, now together 13) and I honestly was not fussed either way because I know full well as the kid of unmarried parents that a marriage does not a better relationship make.

If it is something that is important to you I totally agree that he should be willing to discuss this and give you some more insight into what is driving him or making him hesitant, but it doesn't mean he doesn't love you in the meantime. You two have a way bigger commitment to each other - a kid - so it clearly isn't a commitment issue whoch would of course be a problem. He may just want to do it in his own time, and in which case wouldn't you rather wait and ensure he is 100% ready, than pressure him into something? You deserve that. Sending love your way ❤️

If getting a proposal is very important to you, then tell him and establish a timeline/boundary. Be prepared to make a decision if the timeline is not met. Many people will say to wait and be patient, but this is your life too. If you are not comfortable waiting any longer then take action.

We are on the same boat sis... 4 years, a son, and living together as well…
Men like to do things their way and forget that the relationship involves two people. Why they get to decide what time is best to get married? Shouldn’t it be a decision that the couple makes together? Talking and establishing the best time?

My dad and stepmom dated for almost 10 years. A ring doesn't mean love. He'll so many people get divorces now that marriage isn't even what it used to be

There's alot of factors I feel that are in play. My cousin would, to me basically bwg/nag her now ex husband to get married. Said in God's eyes and about all the kids thoughts 2 hers, 3 his. He clearly told her he didn't want to get married again but she madenitnan issue. She had a baby from him, they got married the daybb4 baby was born and within 2yrs divorced but for other reasons as well. With that said, if has he stated his reasons why or gives u the some day or soon answer? I see some ppl say to wait for timing and others to give a time and make decision to leave. It's up to u but is the none marriage worth leaving over now being single, dating again and MAYBEA find someone again. Bc it won't be soon, I left a man at 29 bc he didn't want kids after being with him since HS. Dating sucked and didn't find the one till I was 37.

I've been with SO for about 8 years now (2kids). I don't ever bring up the topic because if we ever get engaged, I'd like the romance of the suprise, so I've not had the experience of hearing it'll happen then wondering....

But.... I also don't think it's necessary too get married in order to show you love them. He's been engaged before, and I wonder if that affects his consideration to propose, or if he just doesn't want to on some subconscious level.... or if it's financial. We can't afford a nice wedding, and I want a nice wedding if we ever get married.

All this to say - if everything else seems to be going well in your relationship, I don't think this is a make or break thing. I don't think it means he doesn't love you.

At you more concerned about needing that proposal to prove he's in love and he wants to stay? Or are you just someone who fully believes marriage should happen? Maybe he is one of the people who is okay with or without ever getting married, even if you stay together 80 years?

Thank you all these replies has really helped me ❤️