False starts

Does anyone have any tips to prevent false starts at bedtime? Without fail, my son will wake up within 30-40 mins of bedtime.
He’s been awake since 3.45pm and went to bed 6.45-7pm ish so plenty of awake time before bed. Decent naps earlier in the day (total of 3.5 hours today) and he has normal wake windows of 2ish hours.
We’ve tried a short later nap (around 4.30pm) and we’ve tried keeping him awake longer before bed to build sleep pressure… nothing seems to change this wake. Once he’s up, he keeps doing hourly wake ups til I go to bed (then it’s 2hrly). Just want some part of my evening back 😓

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We found something similar until we tried white noise in the bedroom to keep her in a sleep, not sure if it works for everyone but it did for us. She now stays asleep until 5am

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I found when my little one was over tired he’d wake up 30 minutes later.

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Following! Our LO is exactly the same !

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I would agree with overtired as well my LO does this when she’s had too long a wake window. I try to stick to 2 hours max before bed which (usually) helps prevent the false starts x

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So we had been doing 2 hours for the last 3-4 weeks but he was still waking up so now for the last 3-4 days I’m trying to keep him up longer for the last stretch 🥴 we use white noise and have done since he was born.

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I would try putting to bed at 6:15 and see if there’s any difference 😊 x

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My only theory would be that it’s the sleep regression and he can’t link his sleep cycles?

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He definitely can’t link sleep cycles, it’s been almost 2 months for us in the regression and it only seems to be getting worse. He can’t put himself to sleep at all. Even when we cosleep he wants either feeding or rocking when he wakes up 2hrly. I can’t bring myself to sleep train, not sure what else I can do other than ride it out. I’ll try an earlier bedtime and see how we get on. Thanks everyone!

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Yes I understand. Same over here! Although I am also not keen on sleep training I am trying to put my little one down awake and let her fuss for a bit. She rubs her eyes and tries really hard to self soothe but gets frustrated .
I think consistency is key.
I’m hoping when she goes onto solids and a little bit older she will get there otherwise I may have to implement a gentle sleep training

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My little girl is the same. I read that they can be caused by overtiredness so you could try a shorter wake window in the evening maybe? I tried it yesterday and it worked but I think it was a one-off as she woke up again tonight 😅

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After reading through the comments I’d definitely try keep going with letting your baby fuss a bit rather than rushing to help. I don’t mean full on meltdown, but you’ll know the different cries between something is actually wrong and they’re not getting what they want. Also putting baby to bed earlier so that the self settling is included in that 2 hour wake time. We now put our LB to bed roughly an hour after his awake time, read him a story and he will self sooth to sleep. The first time it probably took him over 30 mins to do it, now we’re down to max 5. I used to sit on my bed on my phone next to him while he did it so he knew I was there but didn’t intervene. Hope something works soon for you! X

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Thanks for all the advice guys, we really struggle with self settling because he doesn’t really fuss he just starts crying (like he’s angry) immediately and doesn’t calm down. I tried doing controlled crying last week but after about an hour I gave up. He seems to get more worked up if he can see me… I’m going to try again tonight though a bit earlier and see how we get on!

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Does he have a dummy or comforter? or could you try gradually put him down drowsy and then start putting him down awake? I found that white noise actually wound my LO up

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We did have a dummy for a while which helped him settle but he wouldn’t take it after the initial put down for bedtime so felt it was a bit pointless if it wasn’t helping overnight and he would get worked up and push it out… tried a comforter which also worked for about a week then stopped 🤷🏽‍♀️ I think it may be worth just slowly putting him down drowsy then more and more awake each day

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It might sound a bit mad but try just putting the telly on or having some soft music playing. My little one can’t settle when it’s completely quiet. So he falls asleep with the tv on so there’s some background noise. I hope this helps xxx

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Update: it took an hour of lots of thrashing/crying and waking up every time I put him down butttttt we haven’t had a wake up in about an hour so far!! Progress 💪🏽 thanks ladies! X

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how was the rest of the night?? He will get used to the earlier bedtime if you stay consistent he just has to realise he’s tired and not tip into the over tired I think 😅 we are in the regression (some nights) so just had our first wake up of tonight so thought I’d check in haha 😊

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so he did 2 hours then wake up and feed, then he was up every 2-3 hours but I think more so because he has a really awful cough all of a sudden. I think it will work, as you say consistency is key!

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my boy is the same! What did you do last night to get your LO down??

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I gave him a nap around half 4-5pm which I haven’t done for a while and then went up for bed around 6.30. We had a bit of a massage, read a book and then I put him down on the bed and lay next to him. He started having a meltdown before long so I picked him up and rocked then put back down. This went on for about an hour til he was properly asleep. Going to try again tonight!

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If it makes you feel better, after months of not having to rock my baby to sleep, he is currently asleep in my arms and I’m terrified to put him down if he wakes up 😂. My partner took him and my dog out and he didn’t have his usual nap so he’s just being a nightmare from 5.45 onwards 🫠. X

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Bless you ! It does make me feel better while we’re having another meltdown 😅

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ride the meltdown out! You’ve got this 💪🏼 (I say this as 15 mins into my own meltdown I had him picked up) x

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@Riki interesting!! Hope it goes well tonight. I need to start doing this but I find it so mentally and emotionally draining 😩

I ended up giving baba a late bedtime because we also had a late nap and so far it’s been okay. Aimed for 7:45 but ended up nodding off at 8:10 (rocked in my arms, he didn’t want to be fed to sleep - unheard of!). It’s too early to tell if he’s down for a few hours but he nodded off whilst chatting so he was happy

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it didn’t work tonight but our naps weren’t as good today (been out and about). I think we just need to keep trying and it will hopefully fall into place 🤞🏽

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keep at it lovely! You’ll both get there ❤️

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You too 💪🏽

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