Partner works incredibly long hours, how much do they help out?

I'm struggling. Have been for a while. I've had one break from parenting my daughter, that was for 3 hours in December when I left her with her dad.

She's 14 months old and I'm just tired. I've done every night by myself. He's out of bed at 4am and doesn't get home until 7-9pm. He drives for work, very physically tiring.
On the weekends he was doing 6 days, one weekend day off, but now has both off.

He doesn't sit on the floor and play with her, he doesn't read to her because he says she doesn't have the patience.
He will pick her up and hold her whilst he's cooking.

Recently I've been "snappy" with him.
He got back from the mechanic last weekend, she was getting onto the sofa and he put his headphones on and started to watch Netflix on his phone.
The same day I told him I was going to run her bath and to watch her whilst she was still eating, he fell asleep on the sofa.

Today he went to football after going shopping, so was out 1-3 and then from 4-8.
He got back and I was snappy.

"I don't get why you're so snappy with me"

I said - Probably because I haven't had a break since December.

"Do you think I don't know you haven't had a break. I haven't had a break", "I just won't go to work, I'll sit at home all day".

Then "do you think I like not having a connection to my child"... But that's on him? He never sits to play with her. He "doesn't see the point". He's stated that this age is boring to him.

Since she's been born, he has been to a friend's once a month. Football - He stopped going for 7months, but has been the last two weekends.

Are these not breaks?

He does do the washing/washing up/cooking/vacuuming when I haven't had a chance to; but I'm the one in charge of feeding her, naps/bedtime, teeth brushing, hair brushing, baths, dressing her, making sure she has the right shoes, appointments etc. Everything falls on me.

If your partner works ridiculously long hours, how much do they look after your child? Do you ever get a break?

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I could’ve written this myself - especially the football part - nothing makes me angrier than the fact football seems to be on every other week?! (My husband did not have any break from going to watch it since my little girl has been born 😂) He also tried the “well when is MY break?” comment, as if he doesn’t go to football, to the gym, out with friends - even a commute to work and back would be a break for me at this point?!

I completely empathise with you… My only ‘break’ away from home alone is when I go and get my nails done once a month for an hour, otherwise I’m mum mode 24/7…

I just truly tbink they live on another planet to us and will never really understand what it’s like to be a mum!

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If he has been working incredibly long hours, then haven’t you been also? Raising children is also hard work

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I think it's about balance, my husband works long hours, but i force him to also take on childcare duties, especially on his days off, so that I can take a moment of peace and listen to music/podcast etc e.g. when he's hoovering/cooking etc, I'm guessing you're dressing/bathing/ mum mode - just switch roles, I feel like men sometimes need to be asked to do things, it doesn't come naturally to them like it does to us, e.g. "can you bath X whilst I cook tea?" / "can you read to X whilst I hoover?" Like he's clearly helping you despite his long hours, so get him to help you with the childcare chores instead of house chores, it will give you a break (even if only for 10 mins) and also help him build a bond more

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My husband works insane hours so naturally I do a lot more but he will do anything I need him to when it comes to our child. Our baby is only 2.5 months so she’s in that “boring” stage where she can’t really be “played” with, she’s more like a floppy potato. But he will give her a bath, soothe her to sleep, feed her, etc.

I think you both need to come to a compromise. He can do football every other weekend but you’re doing x every other weekend. You just need a break from being mom 24/7 and need to fill your own cup. Whether that be a club you join, getting ur nails done, even food shopping alone without baby.

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I feel like parenthood comes more naturally to mum's than it does dad's, my husband is great now and I can't fault him much at all, but I still do have to ask sometimes, e.g. if he is in charge of bedtime (he is on all of his days off, I'm in charge on all his days at work) then sometimes my 4 y/o could be still up hours past bedtime if I hadn't given that gentle nudge, "right 5 more mins and then it's bedtime, come give mummy a kiss" - sometimes I think they need things spelling out x

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I definitely didnt know the way it could feel having time to yourself after this when theyre still young. That mom guilt really narrowed my space. But now im going for the 4-8hours disappearances. Iv ehad me a slice of cake watching the sunset at a park. Felt weird but good. Make it happen! He would have his time too. We just keep tapping in. B9th sides will be depleted but knowing that just means we learn how to seesaw really well so we can still do other stuff. Its not impenetrable but it does make communicating work. Its hogh stress for years. We can choose how to still prioritize self lov3 and relationships. Its not i or me alone anymore...unless you start shutting out another persons expressive moments. Even a BABY. How else do we connect to eachother without being curious and patient

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Sorry you’re going through this. Sounds really challenging for you both.

My husband was doing really long hours and he’s had to change role to work for our family life. I’ve got a friend whose husband has done the same. Sadly both husband have had to take a step down which of course also had a financial impact. But it just wouldn’t have worked long term for any of us

But even during those long hours, he did appreciate it was a lot for me too - so he would do some slow cooker meals he would put on before leaving the house and would be coparenting with me when he was around / spending as much time as possible with little one. And importantly to me, he verbally acknowledged it was a lot for us both

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It sounds as though with your setup you cannot expect him to do much in the week, but at weekends he should definitely be co parenting with you at the very least. Football, gym and even watching netflix are breaks when you've got a child this young! Maybe encourage him to kick a ball with her at a local playground? Or any other way he could maybe play with her in a more 'him' style of play? It sounds as though he doesn't feel his child likes him, though that's probably not true, she's just more attached to you because you're the primary carer.
If he has 2 weekend days off ask him to pick a 3 hour slot where you can go do something for yourself. Obviously this only works if he's willing to put in the effort to get to know his child and support you. Unfortunately you can't force support.

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My partner is a pilot so works long hours which are mentally tiring - I was struggling with this when my baby was around 9 months old as he kept saying he didn’t have a relationship with our baby. My therapist suggested that he take over bath time - an easy thing to do which has a set routine and honestly it really has helped! On days that he isn’t working, he will do bath time and my little one loves it! (Gets a bit moody when he is stuck with me for bath time now😂).
My partner isn’t the best at helping with the housework and needs reminding or asking to do things but I can leave my little one with him, just with a little guidance of what may be needed. I also found, just booking in time for myself to go out and meet friends has helped. Put it in the diary, say he’s looking after the baby and go. Even if you have to prep some bits for them beforehand (lunch, etc)

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You need to INSIST that you get an hour off from parenting, each weekend day.

And do NOT spend that hour doing housework.

Until he gets used to it, I would recommend you leave the house for that hour. Even if you just sit in your car down the road and watch something on your phone.

Men do not give you a break. You have to force them to let you have a break.

"I will be going out at x time and you need to watch the kids".

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Personally I think you should both be working the same hours, I can’t imagine driving is more exhausting than parenting but maybe that’s because I love driving 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️ have you added up how many hours you both work each week? I would include your night time hours but also work them out separately as they should really be viewed as doubletime due to the sleep disruption which affects literally everything else.
Assuming he’s 4am-9pm 5 days a week that’s 85hrs
If your daytime hours are something like 6am-7pm 7 days a week that would be 91hrs, plus any night shifts.
That’s assuming the longest amount of time for him every day, and assuming your little one goes to bed at 7pm and you have no other chores to do after that, and not including nights, and even then you’re working more hours and without a break whereas his hours are condensed into 5 days and I can’t imagine he works 17hrs per day with no breaks

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My partner works these kinds of hours too, and honestly he’s looking at changing roles because in the long term, those hours aren’t really in alignment with being a present or active parent. Maybe there are people who can do it, but neither of us feel like there are enough hours in the day to work 12-14 hours, get enough sleep, look after himself, and also be an active dad. So he’ll probably change roles, and I’ll also go back to work. Is there anything you two can change about your situation to make it more manageable?

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my partner works from 5am-6pm monday- saturday and still does as much as he possibly can when he’s home. he helps me wash up after food, entertains our son from the second he’s back till bedtime and literally anything else i could as him with no complaints. i hate work being the excuse of not helping out when they’d have to do that anyway even before making the decision to have a family. him and my son are genuinely best friends and being there for his family should never be a burden.

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My fiance does the same, drives HGV'S for a living. He comes home and will make dinner/wash up or take the kids, whatever I need doing at the time. He puts our son down to bed if he gets back on time while I have the newborn or make our dinner ect. I wake him up after he's put the toddler down so he can go to the gym then he comes home and goes to bed, up in the morning for work. I stay at home while he works, he pays all bills but he always takes the kids even for a little while when he gets in or when he's getting up for work he will have the baby until he leaves.

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I need an outside view as I don’t have anyone to speak to.

We (husband and myself) lost our cat a month ago due to a clot he was 5. And we lost our other due to cancer in February

At the start of the year we had two cats and two dogs. The dogs had always been my husband. Not as in responsibility just that they’d be all over him when he was home. That’s great it suited me as I have 3 children to care for also. The cats were more me. Again not responsibility just they’d come to me to settle down with for kisses or fuss. We took turns feeding whoever was about at the time of needing.

Anyway. It’s been a month I now have no cats I’d been grieving and finally plucked up the courage to say I think I want one. Explained how the dogs were more him and now I have nothing. He so I thought got it and said he’d support me in whatever I wanted to do. I explained I didn’t want to force a new cat on him if he wasn’t ready. I got it i understood. He said if it was what I wanted he’d stand by that. I’ve mulled it over a few days kept asking his opinion I honestly didn’t want this to become a thing to upset anyone. Same response.

This morning I found a couple of kittens near by, went and visited and narrowed it down to two. I knew the girl by off chance and said I would let her know by the end of the day. I went home showed my husband he said I needed to choose which one and he went off to the shop to buy what we needed for her.

This bit matters. I went to visit at 12. WE decided at 1.30 he went shop at this time I fetched her at 2.30. At 3.30 he said she still needed somethings so went back to another few shops. Brought her a new bed bowls ect. While he was gone my son told me that my husband had been in the phone to his parents saying I emotional guilt tripped him into having a cat. He wasn’t ready for. And that I don’t give the dogs enough attention which isn’t fair.

Now I feel like shit and I’m struggling to attach myself to this kitten I can’t even name her because I feel I’ve done something wrong. I get up every morning and feed water the dogs and let them out and clean up after them everyday and I book appointments and give them medication the only thing I don’t do is bath them. I can’t speak to my husband about it because he will then take it out on my son because he told me everything and I don’t want that.

Was I wrong for bringing in this kitten??

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AITA ??

I have 2 under 2. One being a newborn.

My friend came over to visit and brought her 6 year old. Her child is veryyy tall and looks about 10. She has a lot of energy & just doesnt stop.

Anyway, my 2 year old is being assessed for autism. She does not like physical touch, people in her personal space or loud noises. My friend knows this.

Anyway, her child has come in SHOUTING and playing music on her phone. She was throwing my childs toys around & then got on to her trampoline. Bare in mind, shes 2 so its a little trampoline. She started bouncing and I asked her if she could please come off it as it was for small children. She shouted, laughed and carried on. My 2 year old wanted to be picked up as she was overstimulated. I asked my friend if she could turn the volume down on her daughters phone and it was too loud and my toddler was VISIBLY upset and covering her ears. I also had a sleeping newborn next to me. She asked her daughter and she refused and that was it.

She then started shouting my childs name and was putting her phone in her face. I asked her not to do that and give her some space.

She then took my toddlers snack and started eating in. My child has safe foods so got very upset as she was eating it.

I looked at my friend and she laughed saying "gosh she doesnt listen." To which I said "can you please tell her to stop it shes upsetting my child" and she laughed saying "honestly she doesnt listen."

This went on for over an hour & my child was besides herself. Shes non verbal but I understand her cues. I tried to take her upstairs for a nap & asked my friends child if she could be a bit quieter as my baby was sleeping & my toddler was going to bed. I hugged my toddler to console her and she laid down for a nap. 5 minutes later, my friend said "i'm going to the toilet" and took her child with her. I told her not to flush the toilet as it would wake my toddler. Heard them both upstairs cackling, then saw on the camera - her daughter go into my childs bedroom and stroke her face whilst she was asleep. She then started getting all her books out and throwing them around. My friend came downstairs and said "shes just chilling upstairs for abit."

My head WENT & I said "shes not fucking chilling she's gonna wake my toddler up" and she did. My toddler was scared as she woke up to banging and a fucking 6 year old trying to climb into her cot. I went upstairs and told her to please get out. She then started shouting my daughters name - who at this point was absolutely besides herself upset.

I went downstairs and said to my friend "shes woke my child up and im now going to have to deal with an overtired and upset child." She laughed and said "its kids being kids." I then said I was expecting another visitor and she had to leave.

I am so annoyed that she doesnt even TRY control her child. She has damaged books & a trampoline and she just watched her do it. Said nothing. I dont like to tell other peoples kids what to do but I'm livid. She then went and tried to pick my newborn up so I said "no put her down." Too late, she woke her up. She had barely napped so was upset she had been disturbed. My friend said "she just wanted to hold her" so I said "I dont care, i feel disrespected in my own house." And then she left. She then text me saying "was so nice to see you today."

I'm DONE with her.

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Have you ever had to punch a pillow or throw something out of frustration from your children (but not in their presence)

I mean like taken yourself away to another room to get your anger and frustration out because of them?

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I have no friends atm so just wanted to say this on here so I can get it off my chest. Our baby is 11 weeks and since he was born via emergency c section I have only attended appointments, immediate family houses and the occasional grocery shop trip where I pretty much wear joggers/trousers and a top with my hair in a messy bun. We had plans to see my husband’s friends and I wanted to get ready a little, straighten my hair and put a little makeup on. My husband asked why I needed to get ready as it was going to rain anyway and my hair would get ruined, and that I was taking too long and we needed to leave, not that he told me what time were leaving. I also have a baby to get ready. I got upset and said that I just wanted to get ready a little so I could feel somewhat normal and I got emotional as postpartum hasn’t been the easiest.

He then proceeded to yell at me asking me why i’m always crying, I said I just wanted to feel a little good about myself. Not sure why but he’s been really difficult with me since the baby was born, initially he helped with the night feeds but not for weeks now as i’m exclusively BF sp he gets to sleep well all night so I don’t think its because he’s agitated.

It really bothers me that men don’t know enough about postpartum and what we go through, the hormones and emotions that come with it. Am I overthinking it or am I in my right to get upset about this?

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So my sister, 19 month old and partner were in the front room watching TV. I was in the kitchen so was unaware of what was going on. My sister told me that my partner was trying to get my son's attention just for the sake of it, asking what he's watching and then calling his name to which my son didn't respond. Apparently my partner then said 'I should fly kick you' to my son in a jokey way. Now reading this, you may be thinking what the actual he'll, just as I am! But my partner is just stupid and doesnt even try to filter his words at times and to be honest, for many other reasons I'm thinking about leaving him.

Eventhough he didn't mean this seriously I just think its such an insane thing to say to any child let alone your own!

I havent even questionedhim about it since as he's not really been home since, but I know that if I do ask him about it he'll admit It but not realise the severity of it and probably say/act like I'm being extra

Thoughts and opinions please!

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