As it says. We have a set routine that we’ve always followed but at the minute my LO will not go to sleep until almost 9pm. He’s charging around the room still after dinner in the evenings and playing as normal. We turn the big lights off after tea and have no screen time (not even for us parents! But he doesn’t watch tv anyway full stop.) We tidy up all the toys half hour before taking him up to bed and read books, then it’s bath or if not read upstairs, bottle, then bed. He just doesn’t seem tired until that point and if we take him up earlier he just plays/ wriggles around with so much energy but then cries if we leave the room. (I am not willing to ‘cry it out’) this is full on tantruming and not just stirring and crying a bit to get comfy. I just feel at a loss and like I’m doing something wrong? It doesn’t seem to matter how long he naps. He had his usual 1.5h lunchtime today but yesterday only had half hour and was exactly the same if not worse. He wakes up at 7/7:30 latest and we’re always very busy and active in the day time as he’s a very energetic boy! I’m losing my whole evening at the moment and it’s really taking its toll on not only me but my partner too as we aren’t getting any time together.
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If he's waking at 7/7.30 and going to bed at 8.30-9 then he's having 10.5-11hrs overnight plus a 1.5hr nap which is right in the middle of average sleep needs. We go to bed at 8pm but he wakes at 6-6.30 and does 1.5-2hr nap but if he did any less nap it wouldn't make him sleep longer at night either. I'm forever in amazement at the kids still doing 11hr+ overnight and a 2hr nap, that's incredible but absolutely normal for them to need less. I read whilst they are still napping, 10-10.5hr overnight may be all they need. When they drop the nap they will go back to an earlier bedtime. It's so tiring but you aren't alone. If you want an earlier bed you will probably have to accept an earlier wake up and earlier nap to accommodate. Or cut the nap down to 1hr for 2 weeks and see if that helps x

Yes our bedtime is generally 8.30-9.30, tends to do 10 hours ish over night (with 2-3 wakes and feeds) then couple hours nap over lunch/early afternoon. Agree no point trying to get an earlier bedtime as he'll only go to bed when he's ready, lucky if I get half hour to myself but trying to just make the most of hanging out with him on these nice summer evenings
that’s good to know. I have tried getting him up earlier with the idea he’ll nap earlier and then go to bed earlier but it really doesn’t seem to make a difference. Thanks for the reply xx

It might be that he may just need 45 mins or an 1hr for his nap if you want your LB to go bed earlier . My LB goes bed 9pm & if he wakes up at 8am then he only needs 45 mins and he powers through to 9pm 🫨. He is normally up by 6am to 7.30am mind you but on the days he does sleeps till 8am then he doesn’t need that much for his nap x