Early morning wakes

Going to bed late rarely helps with early wake ups, HV told me that and it’s so true, half the time i find if we give her a later bedtime shes up earlier than usual 🙄

Is there any way you can move afternoon nap earlier and have it end no later than 4:30 for a 7pm bedtime? Ideally even end for 4pm giving a large wake window before bed?

We’re somewhere in a weird mix of 2-3 naps, our sporadic 2 day nap she slept really well at night and woke up about 30 mins later than usual in the morning but tried it again yesterday and she was exhausted before nap 2 so it became a 3 nap day again 😅

yeah I agree with the later bedtime earlier wake up link, I’ve noticed this too! I just ended up trying it yesterday because naps were all over the place. It’s so hard because she wakes up at all different times every day so we’re not on a schedule yet, just follow her lead and she naps when she’s tired. Yesterday she woke up from nap 1 at 12:45pm so I put her down at 3:45pm (she refused it at 3:15pm hence the longer wake window). We’re all over the place with naps which makes it so difficult. Some days she’ll go down for a nap at 4/4:30pm because of the timing of the earlier nap (e.g. it ended at 2/3pm) so she wouldn’t last from then until bedtime at 7. It’s a nightmare! 😂 Id love to be able to get her up at a set time but because some days she’ll wake at 5am I can’t get into that routine

They say that most babies have a set amount of sleep in 24 hours

From tracking i know that my little one is around 14 hours in total so I cap her naps at around 2 hours all day.

Normally thats a 45 min nap in the morning, then 1.15-1.30 in the afternoon. This allows her to have 12 hours left for night sleep

Seems to work pretty well for us but I know some people dont like to cap naps.
If your having long day naps you should expect less sleep at night, which is maybe why later bed isn't helping with a later wake up

We also extended our wake windows to 3 hours recently as she dropped her 3rd nap.

We were on a routine and then teething and illnesses threw it out of the window, but usually a 6:30ish wake up, nap at 8:30/9ish, nap at 12ish and then nap at 3/3:30ish and then bedtime at 7 but she has always been a 30/40min napper so it’s been easier in that sense.

When i can get her to 2 nap thats usually 1st nap about 3 hours after waking followed by a wake window of about 4 hours and then ideally a longer nap of up to 2 hours.

If she had to go for a late nap at 4/4:30 maybe try just allowing a catnap of 20 mins, she’ll be miserable for a little while, any time i’ve had to wake my girl up she cries but is always fine after 10 mins or so of being re-directed to toys etc.

I’m just wondering if your first wake window is less than 2 hours long whether she’s linking that up with her nighttime sleep, or vice versa with the last nap of the day

My baby used to wake up at 4 am!😩
I started to follow 3/3/4 wake windows in the days (google it because I’m Terrible at explaining)

But it has really helped !! She now wake up at 5.30-6am usually .

And as the others said, might be because baby gets too much nap time in the day. I definitely used to let my baby sleep to much and put her to bed to early !