Jimmy Carr - fat, stupid kids

Not a big fan of jimmy Carr in general but I agree with this and currently going through it with my daughter. Both me and husband are overweight, and I absolutely refuse to allow or encourage my daughter to make the same choices I have. While she is under my care I will be saying no. She is really pushing my boundaries with what she eats and I’m being very firm.

I don’t know of this person so I can’t be sure but I get the feeling he was just trying to be inflammatory for some clout, the actual sentiment behind the words isn’t actually controversial or an unpopular opinion

100000% agree. Parents should be held accountable for young children’s health. I had a neighbour who took their morbidly obese child out of school because they were being bullied for their weight, of course bullying is vile and disgusting but surely this should be a wake up call to start taking health seriously as a family? How is it fair for a child to miss out on an education and normal socialisation because of the parents poor health choices it’s sad honestly.

Also I don’t even think it should be normalised to have a cupboard filled with junk of course anyone’s gonna raid it I would myself if I’m hungry or bored or even emotional 😭 I don’t restrict myself but having a whole cupboard filled with that stuff is a recipe for distaste it’s literally made to be addictive

Fully agree, my parents were the laid back type & I’ve grown up overweight and a fussy eater. I’ve struggled with my weight and been up and down all my life, I wish they were stricter so I had a healthier relationship with food and exercise.

I think balance and healthy food relationships are so important. I never restrict my 2 children from eating when they want but there are limitations as to what is on offer and I’ve reconfigured my cupboards and fridge to reflect that. Fruits, veg, cheese, yoghurts etc. all unlimited and in easy reach so they can help themselves. Crisps, crackers biscuits etc. higher shelves so they have to ask. Sweets, desserts etc. same, they have to ask and this is limited (usually to one thing per day) but my attitude is, if you want the chocolate after lunch then have it, but you aren’t having something sweet after dinner as well 🤷🏼‍♀️ same goes for juice (no fizzy drinks for them) but once they’ve had their fill it’s water or milk, your choice when to have your allotted amount. Having things off limits or “only if you finish your plateful” personally I think creates more issues as the thing they want as a “reward” becomes too tempting and leads to binging. Treats are allowed!

I agree. We don’t plan to restrict things in our family, they’re just not part of our family culture. My husband and I love to read and have a huge library, so our kids will hopefully see us reading and enjoy it as well. We love hiking and camping, anything outdoors. That will be a family activity. Our kids will have access to any food they want at all times, we just only have whole healthy foods in the house except treats I bake from scratch. I plan on downgrading from a smart phone to a dumb phone when my son turns one, so he doesn’t see me scroll on it. We don’t own a tv or iPads, so screen time isn’t restricted it just doesn’t happen often (we set up a projector with a laptop for family movie nights which is awesome, it’s just a bit of work, so I won’t casually be turning on a show before dinner).

I think this issue is far more to do with family culture and what you ARE doing with and modeling for your kids versus what you AREN’T doing and modeling.

Yeah it’s an interesting thing, people love a common sense take wrapped up salaciously and even with malice, people tend to like that. I don’t know if it’s because some of that malice reflects their inner voice and they like feeling validated like that or what but it’s certainly a phenomenon in American culture too I mean it perfectly sums up the rise of Trump. People even prescribe unearned ethos and logos behind people who do that as if it’s bravery and a sign of honesty instead of malice or longing for attention. Because nobody would be talking about this opinion if it weren’t for the stupid fat kids remark.A logical and empathetic approach to most things is just boring I guess

I’m not familiar with the comedian, but I understand the message he’s trying to get across. I see something similar in my own family. My brother’s kids are 5, 3, and 2, and the 5 yr old can’t spell her name, can’t tell me her age, can’t say the alphabet, can’t count to five, and can’t write her name. The list goes on.

It’s sad because I genuinely want to help, but I have my own 15 mth old, plus classes, and I know how quickly helping for an hour turns into being responsible for everything. One hour becomes two, one day becomes overnight, and one child becomes two.

At the end of the day, it’s his responsibility to give his children the tools they need to have a real chance in the world. With delays this significant, she may need more than casual help; she may need actual experts. I teach her when I can, but the disinterest and the lack of structure at home make it difficult.

No idea who he is. Don’t agree with how he phrased it but agree with the take. I would hate myself if my kids were obese. Not only because of their health, but let’s face it, the world is cruel and it would terrible to be the reason they get bullied. At that age it’s on the parents. Although I’m more of a moderation parent. I think extremes in anything is bad.

I agree, as a child who was allowed to become severely overweight due to over eating, it affected my entire life. I could not do sports at school as so out of breath and also embarrassed. Very hard to make friends as no one wanted to befriend the fat kid which led to more comfort eating. I was bullied for it in high school which resulted in me skipping classes to avoid the bullying and end up with really below average grades. When I see a young overweight child I feel so sorry for them. The parents need to step up. I have also personally known two mums who have had weight loss surgery as so unhappy with how big they are but their kids are obese! Like if you know the struggle why allow your kids to go down that route too. (I know some kids are big for medical reasons and can’t be helped)

I think we should be more concerned about teaching our own children to be kind to others

I feel this… growing up we played many different sports to stay active but if mom started to notice a months worth of snacks disappearing too fast she’d take all the junk and lock it away in a key locked chest and leave nothing but the fruits, veggies, and leftover dinners to be eaten at free will and honestly as a child I thought it was unreasonable but now that I’m a parent I get it because my brother had weight induced asthma and I just started feeling sluggish and later quit gymnastics once the lock box was implemented we both got back to normal in about 90 days but the lock box never stopped being a thing as a parent I see the care in it now

I mean, I give my kids McDonald's, ice cream, AND broccoli, they get TV AND walks, AND they do their homework. Let's teach healthy relationships with food, their bodies, and well-being. It's not an either or situation.. in my opinion anyway...

I agree with Maddie about modelling. I’m not intentionally restrictive, but when it comes to healthy eating, being outdoors and not watching TV, that is how I live my life, so naturally it reflects in how my daughter is raised because she’s a part of this household. I don’t think she feels hard done by or restricted. She can have other stuff outside the house if it’s offered to her, if she wants an ice cream at the park or something like that I’m not going to say no, but it’s not in the house because i just wouldn’t consider buying that stuff when I would never eat it myself. She is spoilt when it comes to good quality, healthy food, it’s become her norm and she enjoys it. So I don’t feel like a mean mum.

I love Jimmy carr! Totally agree with him but I think treats now and again are also good!

There was a good episode on parenting hell with jimmy carr and i actually think he sounds like a very solid, good parent. Worth a listen

So I agree to a certain extent. I am a big girl and I do not want my kid to be like me. So I will not give her a lot of bad food. It will be a once and a blue moon thing not even a weekly thing. As for exercise I keep her active, but there is always a little time in the day where I allow her to watch a little TV. But for the most part she's up running around.

Sounds a bit judgy to me to be fair. You don't know the living situation of your family member. You do not know if she has tried to feed her son healthy food many times,but has failed, you also do not know her pocket to know if she can afford healthy food, so try not to judge another mother. If she is a single mother, it is definitely morr harder on her to parent on her own and set boundaries especially if she is tired, so giving her son unhealthy food to keep him quiet might be her coping mechanism, so how about you find a way to help her or advise her instead of coming here and have everyone else give their little input. I give my daughter unhealthy food most of the time and that is only because she is a picky eater, but that doesn't make me a bad mum does it, because as long as she is fed and still active. Also do not forget genes play a big role in how people look body wise, so that could be a contribution

@Marie she is not a single mum that's my fault how i worded it. There are 4 children and she works as does her husband. They have plenty money , far more than us and stable jobs

We do advise. Mum doesn't listen or think there a issue. Dad does.Son cannot walk to the park 10 mins away without getting breathless, that's when he will walk. He's not active. He's in room all day

Granted, i do think there are some undiagnosed needs there. Possibly some fusiness. The other children are not fussy

The unlimited snack cupboard is not good for them. Don't deprive them of treats sure, but e.g a packet of buttons in a day is different to family packs of chocolate. It's looking out for your kids to not shove that in their face. Hevdid not need unlimited access at 3

Lifestyle is far more influential than genetics. Neither of these parents were grossly overweight growing up. Only in late adulthood. It's choices

I also was just generally posting this and referring to them as it made me think of their situation

I think a huge part of it is parents understanding of what a heathy diet actually is, and what this looks like, especially for children. My mum would never have said she fed her kids unhealthily, however now as an adult I would reflect on mine and my siblings diets growing up as pretty poor. From early ages we would only drink squash & fizzy flavoured water, we had orange & apple juice every day, we would have cereal bars and cereal like Frosties of coco pops regularly. We’re so brainwashed by aggressive marketing I think people have truly lost the concept of what is a healthy and suitable diet for a kid. In western society we’re so obsessed with this idea of children deserving of”treats” and being fearful of what it looks like if we restrict these things, but in reality it all comes down to the fact the big dogs like Cadbury& nestle need us to buy their shit, & we’re brainwashed to think excess sugar is ok, especially for children. I could go on and on about it ahaha!!!