Just here to vent somewhere, feeling isolated in this.
My husband and I got in an argument.
I’m conflict avoidant and usually choose the peaceful route, even if that means holding back from saying things I want to say and I’ll apologize for my role and make it clear I don’t want to argue, just address or resolve _____ .
He on the other hand is very immature - he fights to fight, he wants it to escalate and wants nothing to do with any apologizing or resolution or calm tone. He’ll say mean things, make threats and turn it into a toxic game instead of an adult disagreement. At that point I just retreat. You can’t get anywhere with that behavior. After a few hours he’ll just start teasing me or be randomly nice - never address what happened - and sweep it under the rug with playfulness.
But If I respond frustrated or upset and don’t go along with it, he becomes the victim. “I was just trying to be cool and you want to be all sad and have an issue so FUCK IT” “you want me to be the bad guy - I’ll be the bad guy” and I’ll desperately try to explain, nothing has been addressed and I’m upset right now or my feelings are hurt by what he said and he just railroads me with petty statements so I just ignore him until it fully blows over.
I am frustrated with the dynamic. I give him so much grace and set the bar way too low in the beginning that he now doesn’t see his lack and how he treats me. I do everything in the home - everything for the kids - and work from home as well. I go above and beyond trying to handle it all and he constantly sees me overwhelmed or needing help and the moment he’s off work, he plays games and does what he wants to do until bed. I don’t harass him about it because it gets me nowhere. I don’t act resentful, I just do what I need to do no matter how much I have to suffer because I’d rather have peace in the house then argue with a grown man who should know better.
I’m starting to think that for many women, even though we’ve progressed, many men are not equal to us in maturity and tenacity for handling the life we share. I don’t have the energy to fight, to blow up our family, to think on it too much…it just feels like women are very under appreciated as a whole, unseen often and trying to make sense of how we fell in love or developed a life with a person when more naive to these realities and now when in it deep - all we want is for some common decency, and they think they should get an award for doing one task sometimes and generally being nice and going to work.
Then if seeking advice, most people reduce an entire family life and situation to “just leave”. I don’t feel like that’s a solution either. I don’t want to leave, I want to figure out how to get him to see the reality of how his actions affect me and our kids even if it isn’t spoken to him. I want him to recognize human to human that more work should be shared…and it’s not right to take advantage of another persons tendency to handle all of the things. I want him to learn that we can have an argument or make mistakes and work with each other to fix it and voice frustrations and anger without saying hurtful things or escalating with threats.
It’s like dealing with a teenager when I need him to be the one person I can let go of the reigns with and trust he’s got it.
It’s exhausting
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Learn more about our guidelines.For argument context - we don’t argue often - the dynamic in our home is generally cheery and fine even if I’m doing all the work and it’s irritating - I’m accustomed to it. So we don’t have any ongoing marital fights.
But today he was drinking, he has a drinking problem so it causes issues. He sometimes drinks and gets phone happy and calls any and everyone. My daughter said he was outside talking to a woman, he’s done this before like randomly call girls in his phone from years ago and act like he needs to catch up and update him on life…super inappropriate…especially given that most of them he’s been with in some way in the past.
I never freak out - it’s so dumb I’ve just shut it down, please get off this call…this is weird and feels violating. He will, it’s never that deep or often.
I come outside and he puts the phone down, I ask what woman he’s talking to, I see the number is not saved in his phone and he lied and said he was talking to a guy friend (whose number is saved