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I hope all is well š
Iām writing I might need some advice here. Maybe the advice you guys give will help others in similar situation.
This is my first pregnancy and I am 17 weeks! When I first found out that I was pregnant I was about 11weeks. The guy that I was dating would be very adamant, pressuring me even reminding me daily if a abort. Appointment. He even told me that if I keep it that he wonāt be there for me and his i terminate heāll support me. Heās even said things like donāt pay any kind to āitā bc itās gonna be de*d by next week and even more hurtful things. I decided to keep my baby, bc I did not want to get a abt. I am 33 years old, with my own apartment and have had my fun. I see being a mom as a ultimate act of love and purpose. I am deeply inspired by the bond between mother and child which embodies unconditional love, nurturing and growthā¦
Even when I told him that Iām keeping baby. He was still adamant pressuring me ans saying rude nasty things to me. He even would insult me. I got pregnant bc he would always š¦ inside of me every time even when I ask him not to, give him condoms ans have talks about risks. He never cared. I took a pill and it didnāt work⦠one day he came over to my apartment, just to tell me that he wants to be the dad ābecause he doesnāt want baby to be influenced by anyone elseā. Then went on to dictate what I should and should not be doing as a women/ mom. Like he would tell me that ābreast feeding isnāt necessary⦠baby staying with him and his parentsā¦telling me how Iām gonna give birth.ā I mean the. List goes on. It wa Avery uneasy and he was in fact being very controlling and still is till the day. Not he is demanding that he names our baby first middle and last. Iāve already came up with a name that I thought of years ago and am using my last name (fathers name).
We are not married, we are not a couple, he is not my partner or anything. Weāve dated for 9 months. But then once I got pregnant and decided to keep our baby he just insults me and disrespects me. He has told me that he was ānever interested in me, isnāt interested in me and doesnāt see anything between us, not even a relationship or nothingā. Then proceeded to act like we werenāt dating. Iāve also found out that he talks badly about me to his family and friends and his mom dictates how our baby should be raised.
I spent 3 days in the ER due to severe pain and heart issues. He showed up but instead of being supportive he just dictated things and tried to antagonize me. I was in so much pain going in and out even on morphine.
I feel like he is making my first time pregnancy hard and very stressful. Like he is making this experience harder for me and I feel like he is going to torture and about me and my baby (mentally & emotionally).
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I wouldnāt allow him anywhere near you during this pregnancy if I were you . It seems like heās purposely trying to stress you into miscarriage because you wonāt get an abortion . Donāt let him in your house , donāt answer his calls , donāt give your child his last name. I usually donāt tell women to do it like that as I think a father has just as much rights to a child as a woman but I will never tell someone to actively put their child in harms way or in danger and that man seems very dangerous and harmful for a child to be around . Heās selfish self centered and heās purposely malicious. If you arenāt showing yet Iād lie to him and say there isnāt a baby anymore so heāll just leave you alone and you can have a peaceful pregnancy. Stress is really really bad for baby and heās causing you nothing but stress . You do whatever you have to , to get that man out of yāall lives .

Im glad you didnāt make it official with him or live with him because he sounds like someone who would get physically aggressive with you .

Yeah normally iād say hes the dad so in theory the last name should be his or double barrelled of both of you. But that man is beyond toxic. You need to step away from him and keep him away from you as much as possible hes literally causing you physical issues due to the way hes being.
Once the baby is born you need all contact to be through a contact centre as well, he seems like a flight risk.
Just try to stay calm mumma, youāre doing brilliantly and try not to let him stress you too much. Just focus on you and the baby ā¤ļø

No. I advice not to give your child bbd last name. It isnāt a rule, is just a costume, other countries give the momās last name. And some others both.

Itās your choice about the babyās name , he really has no say. My childās father and I have been in court all for it to come down to my decision if I want my son to have his last name. Heās now 6 and his name has remained the same.

You need to set some boundaries sis. He never respected you. Finishing inside of you after asking him not to is not okay and itās borderline assault. He doesnāt need access to you at all. I would kill all communication. The name is not even relevant bc heās not a father.

hell no

Yeah, no. I'm usually very against mothers trying to keep children from one parent (my mother tried/did it) but I also fully believe that if a woman can terminate a pregnancy, so can a man. What I mean by this is, up to the point a woman can terminate, the father can essentially terminate any relationship or responsibility of the child (not force or dictate to a woman to actually terminate obviously). He's clearly chosen to end his relationship and responsibility of the child by requesting you terminate - so that's what he gets. No visitation, no pictures or even acknowledgement of their existence, no rights to name, no child support, not on the birth certificate. As far as he is concerned, there is no pregnancy. He sounds abusive and controlling, cut all contact.

That guy is a toxic narcissistic control freak.
Youāll do amazing on your own, I would strongly advise you keep him off the birth certificate for reasons I hope you never have to find out.
Wishing you and baby all the best x

Canāt believe grown men can act like this. Gross!! I have given my baby his dadās name but weāre in a relationship. If I were in your shoes that baby is mine mine mine with my name only!

2 someone like him not a chance my 2 girls have there dads last name but we have been together 11 years and happy but if I was in ur situation then would be my last name he sounds like a terrible guy and wouldnāt even let him anywhere near myself or my kids x

I agree with some of the other ladies. Block this guy out of your life... I know you may think it's the right thing to keep him updated or involved but you don't have to or need to after the things he has said and done way he's acted ect. I'd say 100% just block him off. You should be able to enjoy this pregnancy in peace and really love what you get to experience. The last thing would be sharing any of it with this man who will undoubtedly try to ruin it for you.
I'd also say definitely leave him off the birth certificate and give baby your last name. If he really cares enough he can go to court and get added to the bc. If not it would be one less headache to deal with for real.
You sound like a mature loving individual who will really enjoy being a mom and be a wonderfully loving mama š I'm happy for you congrats š
You are in it for the baby and he is "in" it for the control and power ect. All the wrong reasons. Even if he says otherwise. You can feel it in your heart that he doesn't want this and..

.. he even said so himself. So yea. I know it's hard but my real advice would be block him out as best you can and just do exactly what you want to do. It helps to have a support system on your side.
I had my bd saying similar things to me at first as well and then flipping the script on me too and now he boasts about how great of a dad he is online and tries to get back with me all the time (for looks) claims he wants to be a family... but in reality he does nothing financially and tells me if I don't get back with him x y ans z will happen ect.
His mom backing him up with all of this as well. It's weird delusional shit š ignore them ans see what they actually do. It's usually all talk one way or the other
Like fr these guys want control and don't even care for the baby.
It's okay tho we love our babies genuinely and that's all they need š

Nope my sons has mine my BD aināt want him to have his last name so he just named him and thatās all

No, give the child your name! By the sounds of it he isn't likely to stick around and he doesn't deserve to have that privilege. He can still be named as the father on the birth certificate if you wish but has to be there.

the first question is are you safe now? You have no legal obligation to allow this man to name a child he never wanted nor do you even have an obligation to put his name on the birth certificate. This man is a threat to both you and the baby and so is his family. Mothers who baby their sons (him and his mom) always talk as if they can do no wrong and always want to add their input as is their the one carrying the baby/ pushing the baby out. Iāve dealt with similar with my first child and I had to not only get them kicked out the hospital but also refused to put him on the birth certificate. They were in his ear way too much and they were not about to dictate how I raised my child let alone what I named them. Your health along with babies health comes first. i would stay far away from them, pack up my stuff and leave in the night time to ensure im not followed. this sounds very unsafe like you need to leave

I feel like men like this hate and donāt respect women. Itās even worse when theyāre in and out one minute acting like theyāre interested in the baby the next not but maybe itās also they trying to accept in theyāre mind that ur having their child. Either way I think itās best you try to just focus on you and the baby itāll be more peaceful not dealing with him and all the messed up things he says and does. I wouldnāt give the baby his last name to make sure there is less drama and manipulation.

they definitely hate women

omg this is true. Thatās exactly how it is! Especially being that he lives with with his parents still. When he mention putting the baby in a flight out of the US to see his sister. I declined and told him why. He got mad and his mom felt the need to try to have input. I ignored what she was saying bc itās silly to put a baby on a flight during this time and when theyāre growing their immune system. I think that was when I saw those signs of their relationship. One thing that is hard is that, he would act nice and say things over text messages. For example: āmy parents really want to meet you and welcome you to the familyā or āmy family want to invite you on a trip upstate with usā.

But in reality itās not true. Like heās had his text messages brought up against him in the past so he just plays like that with me. Sometimes I ask him to recall what he has said in person through text. He hits me up everyday wanting to see and hang out with me. He called it āco exsisting togetherā. I which I find it disrespectful bc he broke up with me bc Iām pregnant but wants to be around and do couple things and etc. but he isnāt interested in me, never was interested in me ans doesnāt see anything with me. Which is like contradicting. I feel like he does have his family in his ear. Bc his actions and the things he says does not add up. Like when I went out he asked to join. I paid for everything. And out of courtesy I bought him a lunch too. And he immediately says that he doesnāt like it. Without me even pulling it out the bag. Everytime I ask him why he chose to be a dad he never gives a real reason. But instead goes back to lecturing me and dictating how our son will be raised

I spoke with a counselor and she asked me if I wanted to report him. It feels weird, Iāve never been in this type of situation before. Never knew that being controlling is a sign

My ex does that too. Says fucked up things in person and then over texts acts so calm and kind. I think thry only way to get them to say things you could use against them in messages is to stop all communication outside of texting. I mean honestly tho there's no reason to even speak to this guy. You owe him nothing
If you ignore him for a bit I feel like he will blow your phone up saying messed up things you can keep documentation of for future if you ever need it

I have recorded phone calls too but tbh it's different state to state idk which states those count in court š¤

after reading what you said take it from me, heās putting himself around you for 2 reasons, he has no plans on having a relationship with you but keep himself around you to make sure you have no chance of putting anyone else in the picture. The other reason is heās trying to sweeten you up such as doing couple things without being a couple is because heās trying to keep you in a family mindset to make it easier to be able to take youāre child once heās born. Heās fully aware that you now know heās a narcissist thatās why he tried to do stuff here and there but thankfully a narcissist canāt keep the mask on too long because their incapable of change. Most likely he actually got his narcissistic traits from his mother which is why she fails to call her son out on his shit knowing youāre a good woman. The fact he tried to do couple shit and still tried to end the time spent together with dictating how youāre son will be raised when he canāt even act as a man himself shows he has a

hidden agenda, I honestly wouldnāt have him anywhere near him and personally I wouldnāt put him anywhere near the birth certificate out of fear of him kidnapping my child. There are men out there that love women as in the will sleep with multiple women and never settle for one as theyāre incapable their on men that will sleep with women but genuinely hate females. Theyāre straight as in sexuality and happy to get their needs met but genuinely hate everything about women and will treat them like a surrogate. He sounds exactly like that

depends on your situation. my first four kids donāt have their dad name he was my abuser. i knew he wasnāt gonna be there for my kids. i made a decision not to put him on the birth certificate or give my kids his last name. i donāt ever want my kids to question their last name and be like why is my last name different from yours. who is my dad etc etc. which i will tell them who he is but i rather them make their own choices when it comes to him when they get older.

I feel that. I think Iām my situation how it started was him not respecting my boundaries. Refusing to use condoms I have to him, ignoring talks about risks, I always bought plan bs and took them. There was even a time when he took confine off. I regret telling him that Iām pregnant. Bc he is very controlling, rude and nasty to me. But he talks about wanting to support me but instead insults me and does nothing. š« he had told his entire family so I feel like heās gonna try to give me hell. Even tho not a hood person. Iāve been doing everything on my own. From living in my apt for 6 years. Even getting a two bedroom, bills, programs, doctor, social worker, planning for baby future etc etc. he does nothing. When I asked him for help on maternity stuff he told me to ājust lose weightā.

Then the other time he disrespected me and my apartment saying that itās not fit for a baby and etc that when I give birth baby will stay with him and his parents. He called my apt dirty ans small. Refused to take his shoes off when I asked, started to smoke weed in my apartment and walking into my bedroom blasting his phone, I was watching tv and he turned the Chanel he continued to insult me and ashed my on my floor and continued to be controlling. I am 33 ans he is 26 (hence he lied about his age). He lives with his parents. I think k heās a reproductive manipulator. Bc he has told me that he got his ex pregnant and made her get an abortionā¦. I think I will be fine without him. I have community, family, friends love and support. Is there a way to have him back off? I donāt feel safe. I feel like he really is gonna harm me and my baby.