Potty training and nursery start in UK.

I was reading on a fb group that a mum got requested to go and change the nappy of her LO to nursery because the LO was not potty trained and staff was not going to deal with nappies anymore. This was at a council nursery. It sound like a joke... Is this common occurance? Should they be potty trained by the time they are 3?

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Not that common in england but very common elsewhere in the world. Most nurseries in england request it if they only accept kids from about 3ish (so the year before starting reception)

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Unless a child has some sort of special needs then I think it's lazy that a mother can't get their child out of nappies by the time they start nursery at age 3 why should nursery workers have to change nappies because the parent says "oh they aren't ready, I'm waiting until they're ready" no its laziness

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it depends on your parenting style. Some parents follow a respectful approach, there is no rush, let the child lead and children leave the nappy when they are ready to do so and by choice, not when the nursery staff doesn't feel like changing nappies anymore.
Given the ratios nurseries have, I see why they would put pressure on parents to do it asap. But this is not standard practice on places that prioritize the development of children. Same with nap times. Suddenly they want children not stop napping.

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Quite a few of the nurseries I looked at said the same, they had to be potty trained by 3

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OK, so what if you let the child lead and leave the nappy when they're ready, and let's say that age is 5 when the child decides. Do you think that's OK? đŸ€” imo nursery staff have enough to do without having to change multiple children's nappies like I say age 3 should be enough time to get your child out of nappies unless they have any kind of disability and its alot harder then yeah I totally understand. Theirs no rush, but at age 3, they should be potty trained

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Our nursery say by the age of 4 they should be potry trained, but also said their is no requirement for them to be out of nappies when starting school. But I'm not 100% on this.

Surely when child started nursery napoy changes were discussed?

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@Becky completely ridiculous & parent shaming view. I have been lucky my little boy had interest in the potty from 18 month and has been great since he was 2.. But I know other parents who haven't been as lucky as the child isn't ready. It isn't through lack of trying, perseverance, or want for their child to be potty trained. Some children do just take longer.

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It's not something I have heard of in my area (or families area) all nurseries I've known of don't have a set cut off..
My nursery is a private one rather than a council one (as he went to nursery when I had to go back to work & didn't want to change him away from his friends when he turned 3) xx

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đŸ‘‹đŸ» nursery teacher here. Unless your child has additional needs we expect children to be toilet trained by 3. This isn’t just a staffing issue (although that massively doesn’t help) it’s about your child’s development. Our aim is to support your child in becoming as independent as possible to get ready for Reception, and us changing your child doesn’t help this. Just like how we want to support with other life skills like feeding themselves, putting on their coat/shoes etc
 it’s all part of it. I have also witnessed children arrive not toilet trained and feeling very self conscious in front of their toilet trained friends. Children are aware of who is still in a nappy.

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@Joyce I'm not parent shaming, I know it can be hard. I've done it. Has there been times I wanted to give up maybe but I didn't, my partner even said to me a few time let's just go back to nappies she's not ready but hell no was I doing that we've started it now we crack on with it, did I have constant washing yes but I didn't give up she turned 2 in September and is now fully toilet trained and has been for a while now I honestly think alot of parents say they aren't ready it's an excuse. They will learn you just gotta teach them and persevere and be consistent. I don't think children should be going to nursery age 3 still in nappies and leaving it down the nursery workers to toilet train other peoples kids or changing their nappies. And no o didn't force her she took to it great at first then all of a sudden started to wee herself ALOT I made it fun and went with the flow, praised her when she went in the potty and just took plenty of spare pants and a travel potty everywhere I went...

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So yeah, I know it can be hard for some parents and children, but it's all about teaching them and giving them that independence

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on behalf of all nursery teachers, thank you 😂
I have toilet trained a lot of kids in my time. Of all the children who have come to my class still in a nappy, I haven’t come across any that weren’t able to be trained. It takes patience and a lot of spare pants in their bags! In fact, when children come toilet trained it then helps us focus on the ones with additional needs that need extra support.

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@Becky "I think it's lazy that a mother can't get their child out of nappies" that us parent shaming? When some "mothers" are doing everything they can but if the child still isn't there then that's life.

I am all for getting them out of nappies as soon as you can and persevering.. I've washed many a pee and poo out of pants and trousers for accidents. My point is still sometimes it's not that the parent is lazy. Maybe you didn't realise, but your wording in that sentence is shaming.. someone could read that and feel like crap that they are being called lazy when every ounce of them is trying hard to get their child potty trained. Please be mindful. Some parent are lazy yes but not all parents.

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@Millie aww bless you. Exactly, you're not there to be changing kids' nappies and potty training that's the parents' job and like you say it just takes time, patience and be consistent once you start don't look back or it will confuse them. I think you do an amazing job it must be hard enough without having to change nappies at age 3. X

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Council nursery worker here 👋
We are not allowed to refuse a child a place based on whether they are toilet trained or not. We are there to support both your child and you and once the child has settled in we will absolutely encourage and support with toilet training. Personal care (including nappy changing!) is part of our job. We’re a 3-5 nursery and each year we’ve usually got a handful of 3 year olds that are still in nappies but 9 out of 10 times they’ve been fully trained by the time they’re 4.

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oh dear! I fully plan on having my son toilet trained by the age of 3 but will be heavily reliant on the nursery teachers to be a big part of this seen as he’s there 52 hours per week since 9 months old as we both need to work full time! Thankfully they are great people and it’s like a home away from home for him.

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yours is a different situation. Absolutely the staff at any nursery that takes children before the age of 3 should be helping with toilet training. The nursery I work in is 3+

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this is good to know because it is something I do worry about for when the time comes because obviously he spends more time at the nursery Monday-Friday than what he does at home x

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