Reasonable expectations from partner

I'm curious to hear from other mums - what is reasonable to expect from your partner when it comes to parenting responsibilities? Including how household chores related to parenting are shared (e.g. Washing bottles, buying and organising things baby needs etc), and housework /life stuff in general.

I know it also depends on whether both parents are working / neither parents are working / one parent is working - but I'm just wondering what is considered fair in different circumstances? Is there a baseline expectation across the board?

Context:

I'm on maternity leave and my partner is working. There's no doubt he's a wonderful dad and partner, but I go between feeling like the balance is spot on, to feeling like there's too much on me. We talk about it, particularly when I'm overwhelmed, and often find some solution to the problem. But the feeling keeps resurfacing and I'm not sure if it depends on my mood, or if the balance is skewed (and I just need more practical help).

Keen to hear other people's experiences.

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We’re similar to you, the balance of housework is fair, we don’t have specific set tasks or anything, it’s just always been (since we moved in together 8 years ago) that all jobs are for everyone. There’s just certain ones that become mainly mine or his because of what we prefer.

The main things I’ve struggled with since having my daughter is that things like cutting her nails or organising her clothes always seem to fall to me and if I forget to do those things I get mum guilt. So we had a few chats around, he needs to start noticing those things and doing them too, it isn’t just for me to do.

I’m now back to work 3 days and my husband works full time, often very long days (gas engineer apprentice), he normally cooks tea and we both get her bits ready for nursery or bottles washed etc at the same time.
Not sure if that’s helpful information at all!

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that is incredibly helpful! I really like the idea of doing those basic things together (it's also time together for a bit of banter while doing something mundane). Encouraging your husband to notice those things and attend to them is also a great conversation to have. This is something that'd probably work for us since we both want to support each other but conversations can inadvertently become "who does more /who's more tired etc". This is a really great, practical and fair suggestion. Thank you so much!

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In our house, I do most things- although not because I think that’s how it should be, but it’s because it’s how it’s always kind of been in our house, and despite many conversations about it, we just naturally always default back to me.

My other half works, quite long days- out the house for 12hrs, and I’m on maternity leave. He’s a great father and does look after our little girl well when he’s around, but he doesn’t do any of the household chores, or any of the organising baby things- a lot of it like you say is him just not noticing that things need doing, or not thinking ahead about what might need to be done.

He is getting better and will cook a a few times a week, and he will do tasks if I ask him to, but often I get annoyed that I have to ask him, so just do it myself. Plus I’m a little bit of a control freak so sometimes would rather do myself than feel I have to hand-hold him through basic tasks! X

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I ran out of space!

Like I said at the beginning, we don’t do this because it’s how I think it should be, it’s because it’s how I’ve allowed it to be for our whole relationship! Having said that, I do feel that while I’m at home on maternity leave, it is natural that more of the jobs will fall to me, as although looking after our little girl is a full time job in itself, I am at home more, so little jobs like washing and pottering round can be done a lot easier for me xx

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so relatable! I don't want to be gendered about this (cos I'm sure lots of men are more particular than their partners) but it's funny how they just don't notice things. It's barely an issue before you become parents, but definitely becomes more noticeable when you're both tired and busy. Things just build up so quickly!!

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I think it depends on the age of baby. My husband worked in a mothers and babies psych unit before he met me and was therefore incredibly motivated to avoid post partum mental health issues.

My LO is nearly 3 months and since pregnancy, my husband has been doing all laundry, all grocery shopping, all life admin (booking appointments, car MOTs etc). I did some batch cooking to prepare our freezer for a few months of meals.

After she was born, my husband did all milk admin (bottle and pump sterilising, storage etc) and in the beginning he would take her for 6-8 hours every evening to let me get a good chunk of sleep. He still definitely carries the mental load - he books the doctor appointments, got nursery place booked etc.

We tend to share the tasks of soothing her and doing nappies. I’d say I probably do a bit more of the developmental stuff and things like nail cutting, hair washing, nail cutting etc. I will pick up more chores once feeding gets easier!

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Just to add - I am super grateful to have such a helpful partner but his mum thinks he’s extraordinary and that he goes overboard with it… I think it’s a generational thing because his friends are all very similar, stepping up to the role of Dad and really pulling their weight.

I just hope this becomes the new normal for most families because I am so angry on behalf of all the poor mums who essentially have to deal with a newborn baby AND a useless man-child (not saying your partner sounds that bad, just seeing a lot of posts about dads playing on their PCs or watching iPads rather than doing their bit!)

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The latest episode of Emily Oster’s Parent Data podcast is about the “invisible work” that usually falls on women in a relationship, definitely recommend having a listen (with your partner if possible!)

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My partner is a really liberal 'modern' guy.

However, with maternity leave we have fallen into traditional gender roles massively and it regularly upsets me.

We share chores. He does most of the cooking now but will forget to prep baby's version without me narrating.

I find, book and do all the baby activities, plan and buy all the things she needs, e.g., cot, weaning, sleep bags etc.

He took her to weekend swim for 6 weeks, but it was too much time taken up and too stressful. He is trying to do our house renovations at weekends which means I have her most of the time day/night 7 days a week.

He is working FT and stays away from home for work 1 night per week. I'm Mat leave, but the bigger earner and in a leadership position, so I'm doing a substantial amount of work organising a project launch for my return.

I'm also doing 100% of the planning for our wedding.

We both feel extremely overwhelmed, it's just my threshold for overwhelmed is much higher and my priority is always baby.

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This is what I’ve been struggling with the most. I feel like so much falls on me. He loves being a dad and is amazing with our son but all the invisible workload falls on me. He works full time and owns a business so he works long hours and I’m on maternity leave. He used to cook but he’s been so busy, we now order from ready made healthy food. He generally takes care of all finances, fixes wtv is broken, buys all the big grocery and household items. He gives me time off as soon as he gets home but I recently joined a mom’s fitness program and it’s 3x a week. It just started and this week I told him what time baby needed to go to bed (he’s almost 5 months and I’ve been on a strict sleep schedule with him). I walk in and he’s playing video games with his friend, baby is crying and fussy next to him. It’s 15 mins past the time he should’ve been in bed and he hadn’t even been fed his last meal. I was absolutely LIVID. He felt absolutely terrible and profusely apologized. TBC…

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He said he just lost track of time. Promised to never do it again. Last night was my second night, I come home… apparently baby was so fussy, he couldn’t get him to sleep. Didn’t know what to do etc… so he basically leave him with me. I shower, then rock him to sleep and put him down. He was totally fine with me. I just think he gives up so easily and isn’t patient enough. So not only did baby go to bed late, it still fell on me to do the work. I told him I think we should see a councillor but he wants to try to figure it out ourselves first. We’ve been together 10 years and have had an incredible relationship/marriage. He’s very good with communication and generally before baby, I felt like he did everything. He’s basically in charge of the food so cooking, grocery shopping and household stuff always fell on him. He always took care of me in every way, my contribution was laundry, dishes and cleaning the house. But since baby, feels like everything falls on me now. 🤦‍♀️

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this is so lovely to hear! It's also possibly because of the type of man he is - working in a mothers and bubs psych unit takes a pretty caring and compassionate person. You've done well 😂

I'm lucky enough to not have a man-child, despite working in a typically macho trade (construction). I really feel for the mothers who have to pick up all the slack.

After posting this yesterday I've had some really great conversations with my partner and hopeful that we'll keep navigating through this with open communication.

Really glad to hear your mental health has been prioritised too during this challenging adjustment period x

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I have finally done it. I have finally become the trope, the stereotype.

I have become bitter, resentful, and very overwhelmed and overloaded. I am very unhappy and hit burnout. And I snapped at my husband last night. I work full-time, and work has been very busy so im working late a lot. Im also in grad school. I also have a toddler that has become VERY clingy with me. My husband works shorter days but commutes, so he usually gets home after me by an hour or more. When he gets home, he usually heads to the restroom for at least 30 mins when he gets home. And now my toddler doesnt want anything to do with him. So im doing all the toddler duties until bed. I dont get 5 mins to myself. Not for almost 2 years. I finally hit my wall. I have also, somehow, become my MILs medical ride service and she somehow has an appt every week, it seems?! Shes not sick!! My husband was complaining that he needs to change routine to fit in a workout sometimes, and I lost it. I have been BEGGING for 5 mins to myself for months. I have been telling him how im not good, im going to burn out for months. And between his attitude and him complaining (which really got me b/c he blames me for not being able to work out?! Saying I need help when he gets home so he just cant workout now) I just lost it completely. I told him how unfair my life has become and I have the entire mental and emotional load and it is just not fair. He got mad at me and said "hes trying" when hes literally not trying at all. What do I do?? No one is taking the load from me! And im done and dont know what to do now.
I do not like this version of me.

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AITA?

This isn't a major issue, just wondering if I'm being a bit of an asshole.

• I do shift work, 5 out of 7 days, full-time.
• My partner works from home (mostly, sometimes he goes into the office) M-F, full-time.

Anyway, whenever I have a day off during the week he gets in his feelings when I make myself food (breakfast and lunch) but not him. His reason is he's working, I'm not - Which is fair but I've asked him how many times on a weekend has he gotten up, on his day off and made me breakfast and a lunch to take with me to work? You guessed it, 0.

So basically, just because I'm at home I don't think the responsibility to feed him should automatically fall on me when he manages to feed himself just fine while I'm at work.

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If your partners parent passes away

And you and that parent didn't get along are you still go to the funeral?

Not my situation!

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We landed on the idea of giving him the 90's kid treatment. A computer in the living room for us to keep an eye on what hes doing online, and once we feel hes mature enough to hang with friends without adult supervision he gets a flip phone. When we feel he is responsible enough and he earns and saves up the money for the physical phone, case, and screen cover, then we will be happy to take him to get a smart phone.

I thought this was air tight, but now my brother says its cruel to give a kid a flip phone, and besides he can just use his friends phones at school.

My husband and i remember a time before the internet, and we remember having complete access to something no one understood yet. We saw unspeakable things and are always battling with the urge to put the phone and social media down. I dont want that for my son, especially with his brain so vulnerable still.

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Big vent!

Hi mums.
I'm a first time mum in my 40s to twin boys.They are almost 5 months old and the biggest miracle in my life!
I am struggling!!!
I'm pretty sure I have ppa as my pregnancy was a very high risk and all I remember was crying from anxiety of all the ifs!Thankfully even born at 35 weeks and skinny,didn't need iu time.
My husband is not helping much because he's always too busy with work.He will "look" after them usually between 8pm-12am so I can have a chance to sleep.
He expects me to just sleep when I touch the pillow,even though I hear tje babies crying and him don't really bother because most of the times he'll be on his laptop working.
When I tell him I can't relax to fall asleep because I feel you r neglecting the babies,he says I'm the problem becauae I'm always there with them and don't give them alone time!!
I am angry!!I am furious!!
I can't keep.up.with housework becauae someone alwaya neess me and most of the times they nap I either cook and clean tje kitchen,do laundry or try and take a quick nap.
He doesn't help.around the house,becauae..guess what?always super busy.
I asked him nicely we could clean the house together every Saturday morning so it's easier and quicker for both of us and he said no,because he has a lot of work but probably wants to sleep until 12 or 2.
2 days ago a button of his coat ripped and I told him I'll sew it these days.
Earlier this morning while running late for his work,as always,he weara the coat and told him didn't get the chance to fix the button and sarcastically said..of.course u didn't!!!
I spent all night awake because one of the babies had congested nose and we've been trying to reduce one fees at night.
I wanted to punch him!!He left and I started crying...I cry so much,even at 5 months pp...
I can't go on like this anymoreeeee...
The crying in my ears is constant..my head is always numb..I've gained so much weight and can't find the strength to get back on track..
Even if I try to.find a therapist to just talk,is it gonna help?I really don't know😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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