My husband was always so supportive and believed in women, but now he’s hanging out some new coworkers who watch a lot of these YouTubers with problematic views. He’s starting to really buy into what they say, and a lot of them are incredibly misogynistic. It started with offhanded comments about how women are always the problem, and leave it to a woman to fuck things up, which would start fights between us because I was so taken aback. As we fight more, he pushes more into these beliefs. We’ve always shared things like chores and parenting, but now it’s falling 100% on me because he believes they are “woman jobs” and I can’t keep up with the extra house work on top of my job. If I ask him to watch the kids for even 30 minutes, he calls it “babysitting,” and he makes it sound like that 30 minutes is the end of the world, where now I have my mom filling in for his portions that I can’t take on. He mocks my friends and says horrible things about them based on female stereotypes, that aren’t even true, and I have repeatedly put him in his place about this. I’ve also expressed to him that I’m loosing faith in his ability to be a part of our family when we are raising 4 little girls with bright futures, and I don’t want them to hear these comments that essentially resort women to objects. He’s constantly asking for a one sided open relationship, because these YouTubers preach that men aren’t meant to stay loyal, and it’s just their nature or something. His actual friends, who he’s known way longer than these new friends, have also distanced themselves because of his comments about their wives/girlfriends, but he blames me for the distance and says it’s because he gave me too much control in our relationship so they can’t respect him as a man.
Today he wanted to go to the bar with these coworkers after work, but the place they always go is closed. This bar is a 100% female ran bar, and they are closed today because the owner sent them all out of town for a professional development opportunity. My boyfriend was pissed and flipped out about how women ruined his day, and said if they wanted to send someone they could’ve just sent one, but he just knows they all whined and cried that they wanted to go too, like a typical woman. He then got very performative with a fake whining voice that frankly PISSED me off. I’ve never backed down when he acts like this, but he continues to buy into these believes.I told him these new “friends” of his and their influence are about to cost him his family, but he just scoffs. I told him I’m tired of the misogyny, and he can go stay with one of them tonight and see how much better life is without any women in it. I told him he doesn’t need yo ask for an open relationship now, because ours is over, and I hope he has fun sleeping around because it cost him everything we’ve spent the last ten years building together. He says I’m just being a typical dramatic woman, and that I need to just learn my place. He says it’s his fault for not learning to put me in my place sooner. Planning to contact a divorce lawyer this weekend, once I’ve cooled off from being so angry. But emotionally, I’m not okay. I feel like this man is a stranger.
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“I’ve learned my place, and guess what? It’s not next to, or even in the same room as your new personalities ass. Lemme know if these divorce papers seem dramatic”
What a fucking asshole. I’m so sorry some POS soiled your partner and that he was so… lost and susceptible to said ranting and podcasts. Those men are GROSSSSSSSS. He should read the comments for 10 minutes.
I hope he thinks it’s worth loosing his entire life over 🤷🏼♀️.
Asking for an open relationship because “men aren’t meant to be loyal” is just… sad. He already has checked out of respecting you as a partner as well tbh, if that’s where is running with those videos

This is all such textbook manosphere bullshit, and I'm sorry it happened to you and that you weren't able to get through to him. I am glad that at the end of this you were able to shut him down and get your girls away from that toxic influence. The women who do sleep with these men are so brainwashed, and often by their own families, your girls could easily have gone that way, and thank God you were able to put a stop to it.
Guess he's about to find out why the manosphere and incel communities are less of a Venn diagram and more a full circle. 🤷

I'm so sorry you are experiencing this, and to be very honest this is NOT the man you married and not the man you want raising your girls, because his views are disgusting. Not sure if you want to go down the counseling route, but he definitely needs some sort of therapy. I'm all about prioritizing your mental health and getting rid of the toxicity in your life, and he definitely shouldn't be around you if he is causing you this much distress. I know you have kids and divorce isn't easy, but I truly believe you are better off without him and he will feel the huge hole you leave if and when you do decide to get rid of him. But please, this man is not worth keeping around unless he really decides to change back to what he was before. Even then though, the damage is done. Feel free to DM if you need to talk to someone!

Wooow. That's so sad. Sounds like he turned into an awful adult. I'm very sorry. Yes please contact a lawyer and take his daughter away from him. Sadly he could be a terrible influence and actually even a danger with them and with you. Please run far away from him

Yeah, that wouldn't be my husband anymore if he stopped respecting me simply because I'm a woman.
Edit: I especially wouldn't want him around my daughter. Just imagine the low self worth hearing those awful things will trigger for her. Parents language becomes a child's inner voice. Leave for your child's sake.

Definitely not fit to raise girls. I'm sorry. Best thing to do is leave and show him you don't need a man. I doubt he actually believes you'll leave seeing that he thinks your being "dramatic", prove him wrong. He's definitely already has plans to cheat.

I’m so sorry. I’ve been there with my ex husband - COVID and the first Trump administration turned him into someone I barely recognized and couldn’t stand to be around. When I heard some of these beliefs being parroted by my then 7 year old, I knew I had to go

Something very similar happened to me in my relationship and it caused a ton of destruction. It was Andrew Tate bull shit. His videos convinced my spouse that my worth was reduced to a nanny, chef, and prostitute and that my spouse was a walking bank account that I leached off of.
It was horrible. Fuck Andrew Tate.

Googling "manosphere" or Andrew Tate will tell you all you need to know. They all have very similar views. Their influence is centered around being alpha males to attract women (though they will say it's not for women, it's 100% to get laid), they relegate women to housemaids and free childcare, say that women actually want to be controlled by a strong man, and promote one-sided open relationships and Get Rich Quick schemes. It's all for money, because being controversial gets them views and notoriety. It's sick that so many men are buying into it.
Though I will say that the men being radicalized speaks to a lack of attention to men's mental health, which is often ignored. These alpha types prey on men who are depressed, who are feeling the pressure of life, and who are down on themselves. In order to address the manosphere problem, we have to first recognize the mental health crisis men are facing, acknowledge it, and do something about it.

it’s a VIRUS 🦠

If child care is such a woman’s job tell him that working and providing is a man’s job and you’ll be quitting work and he can pick up extra work to provide fully for you 🤪 but seriously this is a scary slippery slope and to say women are only good for cooking and sucking dick is absolutely vile 🤮 well done for reacting how you did. He needs to respect and honour you and appreciate the hard work and efforts you put into your family

Absolutely vile. Get far away now. Be careful how you handle your next steps and gather evidence about his views. I don't like the sentence he said about 'putting you in your place'. That sounds like a threat, bordering on abusive. Get some recordings of these conversations if you can. They will help in a custody arrangement.

my husband is the same. the other day.. i was sick and had runny nose and was on my period and needed to change my pad. so i asked him to watch our toddler for max. 1min so i can pee and change my pad. our eldest toddler was in daycare at that time. he was just sitting on sofa on his phone so he told me yess go go i got this dont worry , so i went to the bathroom. the moment i sat down, he screamed my name and yells at me *our toddler's name* JUST FELL DOWN THE STAIRS!!!! i didnt even say anything. i ran downstairs (only 6 small steps but still!) , grabbed her and stopped the crying and put on my new pad in the living room. he's my first love and everything.. im married to my first so
Any recommendations would be great, going down to Cornwall for a couple of days and would like the option of staying at Grandparents etc

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I need help please! I am overwhelmed and sad. I am currently 17weeks pregnant with my second child amd my Son is 3 years and 10months old. He goes to nursery 3 days a week and over the past 6 months, he was said to have been exhibiting challenging behaviours such as hitting people, scratching and screaming when he is upset at nursery. He is different at home but when he's upset, he just cries at home. In nursery, he refuses to share toys or anything and hits at the slightest provocation. No one hits hum at hime so I don't know why he has developed such behaviours all of a sudden. His nursery manager has made us reduce his hours to 2 hrs 30 mins per day which is so tight for me as I work full time. I have tried talking to him, teaching him about safe hands and setting boundaries but nothing at all had changed, i don't know what else to do at this point. His dad (my husband) works far away and comes over the weekend, so there's only little that i can do. I need help please, any suggestions is welcomed.
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Has anyone got any suggestions of activities to do whilst on maternity leave?
We do swimming once a week and try to go to a play group as well as going for walks.
My LO is 8.5 months old and I’m getting fed up of being in the house as much as we are, so I’m sure my daughter is too!
We’re in Worcestershire area so any ideas/recommendations would be much appreciated 😊
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I felt like my boyfriend was hiding something (again) and I checked his phone, I found lots of porn websites in his search history. I feel like shit, I feel like I’m not enough to anyone. He was never like this and I had a higher sex drive all of a sudden he needs more..
we’ve split up before and he said he started watching it then.. I’m 3 weeks postpartum and we’ve been intimate since and it breaks my heart knowing I’m not enough even tho I made sure his needs are met. I swear any other man would appreciate it, and I do take care of myself so why can’t I just be good enough? Everyone says he’s punching and I could definitely do much better than him, but I just wanted to work things out with him so much no one else mattered to me ever. How do I cope with this?
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Anyone encountered something in nursery that required some form of feedback or complain?
from what I’m reading, nurseries are supposed to meet individual baby needs and not make them follow nursery schedule.
But most time they said they tried, but never did and make baby follow their own time due to lack of staff.
For example when they r supposed to put baby to sleep or feed milk, they say they can’t (and tried) but in actual fact they have not tried. Inconsistent updates from different nursery staff as well.
I’m worried. If basic updates are inconsistent even. How are we even gonna be at ease when we send our babies there?
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My son is a week and five days old, and I suggested that my boyfriend sleeps in the living room Sunday through Thursday because he works 12–14 hour days. On Friday and Saturday nights, he sleeps in the room with me to help, but honestly, he barely gets up for bottles or diaper changes. Most of the time, he just wakes up to keep me company, and sometimes when he does get up to get a bottle, he ends up falling asleep on the couch waiting for the bottle to finish warming up.
I know he works really hard and I’m genuinely grateful that he works so much so I can stay home with our son, and I don’t want him to feel like I don’t appreciate everything he does for us. At the same time, I’m exhausted and I feel like I need more actual help with the baby, not just company. I feel guilty even bringing it up because I know he’s tired too, but I’m also recovering and with a newborn and episiotomy stitches and I feel like I’m on the clock 24/7. Is it fair for me to ask him to sleep in the room and help even though he works or to just help more when he’s home or am I being too emotional about it? I’d really like to hear what other moms think. I also have a 17 week old puppy to take care of on top of everything 😓

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