Anyone else ever dealt with a manipulative bd where they word their messages to make it look like you’re the issue. Mine is very manipulative I’ve tried to let him have access to our son but each time he disrespects me or our son but thinks he still deserves access to my phone. The last time he asked me if i ever thought about throwing our 4month old baby on the bed bc he was fussing while otp with him… now in txt he’s trying to say he meant hes going to wrestle him when hes older when that isnt at all what he meant. Then he’s saying im finding excfor him not to be able to talk to him… I wish i picked a better person to have a baby with so there would have been peaceful co parenting 😩🫠
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What are the recording laws where you live?
I found when I’ve installed surveillance cameras inside/outside my home they tend to be more on their Ps n Qs.
I also have a camera glasses just to have my POV documented.

Also when they make off coloured statements, ask them to explain what they mean. And keep asking until you’ve gained clarity. You can follow up with asking what it is they were trying to achieve when making this statement and regardless of intent, its impact on the present moment.

That’s called narcissistic personality… my ex does the same shit, he’ll poke and prod and then when I react I’m the crazy one. My solution has been getting him on the Our Family Wizard app or OFW, it records all calls and messages and everything. Tracks everything for you!! Even when he verbally harasses me or texts me disrespectful shit, it’s all recorded in order.
At one point I stopped texting him and emailing him and he was chopping up the emails to make it seem like something else… I truly hate my BD, but it is what it is. Ultimately if he keeps doing all of that, you can take him to court and the court will obligate yall to communicate via that app.

Per what the girly above said, regardless of the recording laws, any ring camera or surveillance camera you use outside of your house can be used because it isn’t him being recorded without his consent like if you had a hidden camera. Just let him know you got them, on camera and it’s admissible.
Also, don’t ask for explanations, limit your contact as much as possible. If he says something to trigger you limit your responses. Asking for clarification will give him more opportunity to gaslight you, and none of it matters anyways unless the initial comment of let’s say “do you ever feel like body slamming your kid on the bed” was done via text.
it gets really draining personally idc to deal with him but tried for our son but he keeps doing shyt I’ll definitely try that app
ok makes sense so it was pointless bc i definitely did try to get him to clarify yesterday 😩ugh i never really hated a person until now

It’s extremely draining… my son is 5.5 and I’m TIREDDDDD of dealing with his dad… he treats me like I did something horrible to him, meanwhile I divorced him and left him because he was an emotionally abusive asshole and I just feel he hates me for making him a dad when he didn’t want it. He wanted his green card and he was the one who trapped me.. I didn’t even want kids at the time so… I FEEL THAT!

Yea… he’s never gonna slip … he’s to egocentric for it, cause he knows it’s wrong and shit…
i tried asking him yesterday and he tried to say hes going to wrestle him when hes older🫤… thats not at all what he was saying before
im sorry about that and same in a way i wanted to be a mom i wasn’t planning on as soon but as soon as he found out i didnt want to be with him or move with him he wanted me to abort our son

I’m so so sorry! 😞 I get that… I believe that our children choose us as parents because we needed them when we got them… 🥺🥺🥺 so here we are doing our best! Kudos to you
id definitely agree i love my baby so much and thank you